TRANSCRIPT: COVID-19 Directors' Chat - April 13, 2020


Directors' Chat
Monday, April 13, 2020

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:Greetings everyone~!  Hope you all had a good weekend!

  Jo - Greenville Public Library:Yes, it was nice.  Different, but nice.  How about your weekend, Ellen?

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:We spent a lot of time checking in with people---it was nice!

  JIll Pifer _Fairview Heights:Does anyone know much about Library Aware and the info DIana DOnahoo posted with the Bingo.  I'm assuming that site has templates? Are they offerign free access?  I'm curious about the Bingo card but it would need to be modified.

  Debby Nokomis Public:@ Jill I am, too. Looks like fun!

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:@Diana from Centralia----can you shed some additional light?

  Jo - Greenville Public Library:We are working on a modified version for children.  I'm hoping to send it out with the next water bill.

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:For those of you who might not have seen the above mention, here's the link:

  Diana_CentraliaRLD:I found out about it from a library group on Facebook and am just starting to look into it. I am thinking it is free at least for now but not sure if I am remembering correctly. I will see if I can find the post on Facebook.

  Shawn-Elwood Library District:I just tried clicking around Library Aware. My internet security didn't like it. I had to close it.

  anna-ihls:@jo, Jill and Diana D that sounds like a great passive program

  Debby Nokomis Public:@ Shawn Mine didn't like it either

  Diana_CentraliaRLD:from the bottome of the page    Copyright © 2020 EBSCO Information Services/NoveList

  anna-ihls:Maybe we should run contests for people to guess when we will be out from a shelter in place order

  Ashley - Caseyville PLD:Canva also has a great selection of different bingo templates that are completely customizable

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:I just saw this morning that access to Booklist and Booklinks is free for the near future:   Great resource if you have staff working on collection development.

  Diana_CentraliaRLD:My computer is letting me access it with no security messages

  JIll Pifer _Fairview Heights:Shawn, I had the sameproblem which is weird that we both did

  Michelle Sawicki Barclay Public Library:Thanks, Ellen!

  TeresaPennington (Paris):Also Library Journal, Horn Book are free access for now

  JIll Pifer _Fairview Heights:I was using Google Chrome

  TeresaPennington (Paris):and School Library Journal

  anna-ihls:I just want to thank Ashley and Lindsey for the great job they did on Friday. your presentationon SRP was wonderful. Positive and informative.Kudos ladies

  Shawn-Elwood Library District:@ Debby & JIll. that is odd. I am using Chrome as well and Webroot

  TeresaPennington (Paris):I missed it. Was the SRP presentation recorded?

  Jackie Camp:I missed it too. Would love to see the recording

  Ashley - Caseyville PLD:Thank you so much Anna! I am glad we are able to provide some guidance and provide examples of virtual programming

  Debby Nokomis Public:@ Shawn & Jill I am using Google Chrome as well

  Jackie Camp:Could you share the link

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:It was recording and Julia will have all that information available later today or tomorrow morning.  We'll post it everywhere!

  Arlanna:yes and has slides

  Jackie Camp:Thank you so much Ellen

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:Julia will send out the recording, the PowerPoint that was used and a link to ILA's resource guide.

  Lora  - Ogden Rose:I tried to attend the SRP meeting and couldn't get in! I was sad!

  anna-ihls:@Ashley, so am I. It is very helpful. We are all feeling our way in the dark

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:@ Ashley.  You and Lindsey made a great team and we couldn't be more grateful!

  anna-ihls:@Everyone, you are all doing really good work in these difficult times. I am always amazed by your generosity, leadership and compassion

  Ashley - Caseyville PLD:Well thank you for reaching out to us to begin with. Lindsey has an education background and I have a social work background so we were able to bring in those different elements as well.

  anna-ihls:These are hard times I hope you are all giving yourselves credit and being kind to yourselves.

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:Any issues that you'd like to discuss?

  Deb Mason Paxton Carnegie Library:Guidelines for re-opening.

  Mahomet John H:We have been paying our staff during the closure, as have most libraries. I am trying to figure out how what we are doing so far coordinates with the FMLA+ and what we can expect once we re-open.

  Michelle Sawicki Barclay Public Library:I am trying to put together reopening guidelines but it is so hard to do not knowing what the governor will mandate. I know I would like to start with curbside services...

  Mahomet John H:I read the ppt from the Ancel Glink webinar but need to go back and listen to the whole thing.

  Mahomet John H:Any chance IHLS would/could host some kind of HR Workshop relating to issues surrounding this whole situation?

  bILL PIXLEY:Ancel Glink webinar?

  TeresaPennington (Paris):I think that we will have to have at least staff only day first.

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:@Deb, if you didn't make last Thursday's chat, there was a lot of discussion about possible scenarios.  Those transcripts can be found on the COVID-19 section of our website.  I agree with Michelle that it's hard to plan without a sense of when.  I also wonder if we're going to have restrictions on numbers of people who can gather.

  Michelle Sawicki Barclay Public Library:I agree with a staff only day...just to get caught up

  Deb Mason Paxton Carnegie Library:Thank you..I was on for part of last Thursday's chat, but not the entire time. I will look that up!

  Mahomet John H:I am sure we will re-open in stages, maybe not as many stages as Bobbi discussed at the meeting last thursday.

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:Susan Palmer is very involved with best pracitices on materials handling and when things are more concrete, I know that she'll be sharing that information with all of you.

  Ashley - Caseyville PLD:The spreadsheet that Bobbi put together was very helpful!

  Mahomet John H:The IMLS webinar where the CDC guy talked about handling books was somewhat helpful, but unfortunately I don't think CDC guy ever understood that most library books are coated with plastic.  He kept talking about paper.

  bILL PIXLEY:Ancel Glink webinar link please

  Lora  - Ogden Rose:I am planning a board meeting for later this week, and frankly I am at a loss on how to approach everything with them. I want to keep it simple. None of them have contacted me, so I don't feel the need to ask their opinions, just tell them what the governor has said, and how I have decided to handling operations.

  JIll Pifer _Fairview Heights:It looks like Library Aware is a service you purchase and if someone has information on a free use during COVID please share. Such as a username/password

  Diana Brawley Sussman:I look forward to hearing Susan Palmer's advice on materials handling. The links to the Ancel & Glink webinar and the IMLS webinar would be useful. Could someone post those?

  Mahomet John H:@Lora your best bet is to go to them with a plan so that your board does not feel that they need to make one for you.

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:I think this is the Ancel Glink link, correct me if I'm wrong:

  Lora  - Ogden Rose:@John, Thanks, that's kind of what I was thinking.

  Julia, IHLS:Ancel Glink has sent out quite a bit of information. You may be interested in their news page:

  anna-ihls:We at Ihls are constantly trying to monitor all of the issues surrounding covid19 related issues as well as normal library matters. We try to meet your needs and appreciate you sharing what your concerns are. We may not have all of the answers but we will to the best of our abilities try to help you find answers.

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:Here's the link to the IMLS webinar:

  Jackie Camp:what is some of your plans? Just wait until we get more guidelines?

  anna-ihls:You all do a really great job of sharing what you findout and your own plans and strategies. Bobbi's created and shared several useful documents. Many of you have as well.

  anna-ihls:What are some of your specific questions?

  JIll Pifer _Fairview Heights:Ancel Glink usual does a podcast but they have been filing the podcasts since there is so much visual information to share. They have had others since the one Ellen posted

  Jackie Camp: Are you getting professional cleaning done before you open? I can't even find clorox wipes

  Michelle Sawicki Barclay Public Library:Laura, it helped me to send to my board Phil Lenzini's (sp?) write up on Covid and libraries. I summarized some of the important points for them to know.

  Jackie Camp:I did send my board the info from Phil as well

  Julia, IHLS:Here is the information from Phil:

  Ashley - Caseyville PLD:Speaking of Phil Lenzini - is the Library Law Day going to be virtual or is that still proceeding as an in-person meeting?

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:Ashley, currently the plan is to reschedule for the fall, but that doesn't mean we won't continue to reach out to Phil as we weather COVID-19.

  Ashley - Caseyville PLD:Ok thank you Ellen!

  Rachel Miller - Forsyth:We'd like to add hand sanitizer stations for when we reopen, but as of now, can't get the hand sanitizer to stock them

  Lora  - Ogden Rose:@Anna, I need some information specific to my library. It's probably simple, but I need to be pointed in the right direction.

  anna-ihls:From what i have gathered you would like information on all of the legal, HRand financial aspects surrounding covid and all of the policies and programs as well as guidelines for getting back into business? Does that capture your concerns or do yu have others as well?

  Mahomet John H:That would be a great start Anna.  Also the issues surrounding handling librayr materials safely.

  Jackie Camp:Yes! That would be so helpful and much appreciated

  Deb Mason Paxton Carnegie Library:Handling the large amount of materials that will be returned...

  Deb Mason Paxton Carnegie Library:Meaning, sanitizing, accepting large groups in the library all at once? etc..

  anna-ihls:I know as Ellen stated Susan Palmer is really looking into how to handle materieals. Remember many of the things your staff handles so will hers

  anna-ihls:I will try to coordinate with Susan on that soe we are sure you are al informed.

  Michelle Sawicki Barclay Public Library:Has anyone heard when Director's University might be rescheduled? As a newbie director, I was so looking to learning from those classes. Last I heard they were contemplating holding some classes digitally but I have not heard anything beyond that...

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:We don't have a new DU date yet.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:Information will  be coming from the committee soon.

  Michelle Sawicki Barclay Public Library:Thank you, Bobbi!

  Deb Mason Paxton Carnegie Library:Thank you! As a new Director, I was SO looking forward to that!

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:You're welcome. The committee is looking at virtula options for right now, with an in-person part in the fall.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:virtual

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):So you can start your planning, here is a great article about disinfecting materials that Susan Palmer shared with me: IMLS, CDC Offer Guidance for Disinfecting Returned Library Books

  Mahomet John H:@Shandi, that is the article where the CDC guy doesn't really answer the question, beyond saying for DVD's and other materials that are more easily cleaned "those are pretty wipeable with alcohol wipes."

  Julia, IHLS:You can find the transcripts from the past Directors' Chats on the IHLS COVID page. They are located in the IHLS Needs-to-Know section under the blue box:

  anna-ihls:I am dealing with some personal chaos right now but I will try to package soem of the innformation you are curious about into packeages you can put your arms around. Just give me some time.

  Mahomet John H:It is good to learn though, that the CDC has little concern about transmission via paper, so we are mainly dealing with the covers of books and not the pages themselves.

  Celeste @ Urbana Free:is anyone considering physical barriers like clear shower curtains hung in front of the ref desks or checkout stations when you reopen? I thought I remembered @Diana Brawley Sussman mentioning plexi-glass...

  Loretta Broomfield:Sorry I had trouble joining today.  I've seen some folks are having issues with their Epson receipt printers.  Wondered if SHARE staff could address this.  Is it something that can handled with a blanket fix?  I've not used my receipt printers in WEEKS and I'm not sure if ours are affected or not.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:Sadly, our circ desk is set up in such a way, that I don't know it it would be possible.

  Michelle Sawicki Barclay Public Library:I like that idea, Celeste. The post office near me is doing somethign similar

  Rita Stephens:I wanted to state an email was sent to PNG grantees that due to COVID-19, return of the FY20 PNG grant virtual monitoring report is no longer necessary.

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:@ Loretta  I don't see SHARE staff here, but I make sure they're aware of the concern and can touch bae with SHARE members.

  anna-ihls:Yes seems like everywhere you go know they have the plexiglass sheilds. I wonder how expensive those are?

  anna-ihls:RIck Meyer just shared an interesting post on the Directors list that I encourage you all to lookk at after this meeting

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:Yes, I just read that.

  JIll Pifer _Fairview Heights:I would question contructing a physical barrier.  If you are going to do that then why are people even coming in the building? It seems to me that the physical barriers are for when we shouldn't be in contact.  I'd assume by the time we re-open it's OK to be in contact.  I think my version of physical varrier construction would be to do lobby or curbside pick-up

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:@Jill, I wonder if they'll be recommending masks for a time as things start to reopen?

  Jackie Camp:Maybe allow only a certain number of patrons in like some stores are doing? Ask that people wear a mask?

  bILL PIXLEY:I imagine we will be open, just still under social distancing guidelines, to thedegree we can be.

  Lora  - Ogden Rose:I agree with Jill.

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):Via the physical barrier, we'll be asked to socially distance for a time after libraries are allowed to reopen. The number of people in the building at a time may be limited, too.

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):I wanted to share something IHLS has been working on. Since the IHLS COVID-19 page has grown so big, I'm redoing it; it should be done in a few hours. One of the features that is already available are three databases: one for free/low-cost CE opportunities for library staff, one for COVID-19 webinars, and one for learning resources for patrons. The information was already on the COVID-19 page, but now they are moving to a searchable, filterable database. You can also submit resources that aren't currently included. The links to these three databases are currently the first 3 links under the "contents" section of They'll soon be moved to a separate "resources for librarians" page, which you'll find easily from the main COVID-19 page.

  Jo - Greenville Public Library:I think it will be wise to be abundantly cautious after re-opening or we risk another wave.

  anna-ihls:Not to be alarmist but past epidemics have had stages and I came across an article that suggested  this one will have 5 stages. I did not have the heart to read the article at the time but will try to go back an retrieve it and share.

  TeresaPennington (Paris):Limiting number of people may be possible in a smaller building, but in ours with two entrances, the accessible one not visible from circ area, it's almost impossible.

  Lora  - Ogden Rose:@Shandi, thank you so much! What an undertaking, but very needed!

  anna-ihls:@Shandi that is very good news and should prove to be very helpful and much easier to access.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:Thank you, IHLS and SHARE staff for everything you've done!

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:@ Bobbi, we're happy with whatever we can do to be of help.

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):Again, the databases are ready to use now, but the main page needs a few more hours :)

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):(for maximum clarity)

  Brenda Gilpatrick-Red Bud Public Library:Shandi Thank you!

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:Anything else for the good of the order as we wind down?

  Jackie Camp:Thank you @Shandi!

  JIll Pifer _Fairview Heights:I feel any reopening of any institutions or business on May 1 is a definte re-emergence of the virus. It is just hitting the Mid-west now

  Jackie Camp:Shandi will you be sending that info in an email later?

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):Not today, but it will be in the next email we send, sometime this week.

  Shawn-Elwood Library District:@Jill, I agree with you

  Jackie Camp:Thanks everyone for all of your help and encouragement.

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):I could probably share it on Facebook, though

  Jackie Camp:Great thanks @Shandi

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):Also, Pritzker said yesterday he will have "some major updates" today, so it may be worth watching his press briefing today

  bILL PIXLEY:Jill I agree. I expect in a week or so it will be extended (and probably then extended again)

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):I usually use the stream at

  Ellen Popit/IHLS:We'll be back---same time, same station on Thursday, April 16th.  See you then!

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):Ciao!

  Julia, IHLS:Governors update:

  Debby Nokomis Public:Thank you!

  Jo - Greenville Public Library:Thank you.

  Jackie Camp:Thank you

  Kathleen Bennett - ctlp:Thank you!

  Jeremy - Cahokia PLD:Thank you!

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:Thanks, eveeryone!

  Kristen - Palestine Public Library:Thank you!

  Michelle Sawicki Barclay Public Library:Thank you!

  JIll Pifer _Fairview Heights:ANd Thank you Shandi, that is great.

  Lora  - Ogden Rose:Thank you all!