TRANSCRIPT​: COVID-19 Director's Chat - Wednesday, March 18, 2020

COVID-19 Director's Chat

Wednesday, March 18, 2020


  Matthew Hales - Newman Regional Library:Hello from quarantine.

  McCoy Memorial Library-Ginger:Aloha!

  Penny Eilers:Good afternoon

  Rick Balsamello:Good afternoon, all.  How many of your libraries are still open to the public?

  Penny Eilers:We are closed in White Hall

  Pam - West Frankfort Public:West Frankfort Public is still open.

  Jo - Greenville Public Library:Greenville is closed

  Brenda Gilpatrick:Closed. Red Bud Public

  Matthew Hales - Newman Regional Library:Newman is closed

  KelseySchaep--Nashville PL:Nashville is closed too.

  Deb Mason:Paxton Carnegie Library is closed

  McCoy Memorial Library-Ginger:Mccoy is closed to the public

  Susan Mullen, Herrin City Library:Herrin City Library is closed to the public. 3 full time staff here working. All part time staff told to stay home.

  Kay Burrous  South Macon:South Macon is closed.

  Donna Jean:Donna Jean -Cissna Park Community Library is closed

  Esther Curry--CE Brhem Memorial PLD:C.E. Brehm in Mt Vernon is closed

  Chris - Charleston PL:Charleston is closed.

  Bobbi Perryman- Vespasian Warner:We’re closed. We have staff in the morning to answer phones.

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:Hi everyone! I'm so glad you all could join us today. Pandemic Pandemonium!

  Matthew Hales - Newman Regional Library:There are only two staff that work here, I told my assistant to stay home. I'm coming in for phones and emails.

  Angie ---Trenton Public:Trenton is open 10-2 daily.  We are acting as a "carry out", in that you can come in and get items, return items and leave. No computers, no sitting and reading, no children unless with a parent.  We are still offering faxing, notary and copying....and faxing especially has been very busy.

  Rick Balsamello:Cassandra, this is the 2020 version of March Madness

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:@Rick, so true!

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:It's 1:00, so I think we can get started.  WE have a huge number of people participating this afternoon.  Lots of IHLS staff are participating.  Anna, would you like to share the system thanks you?

  Anna -IHLS:Hello all,. I just wanted to share again the link to Municipal Minute they have articles that provide great info on how to conduct board meetings during this time.

  Bobbi Perryman- Vespasian Warner:We are dumping a lot of money into ebooks. We’re also going to stream story times and ebook demos.

  Rick Balsamello:Are we going to have audio today?

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:Rick, this is only a typed chat.  We've never used audio with this.

  Anna -IHLS:Bobbi are you creating the content or just sharing that which is available?

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:If anyone wants quote information regarding ebooks through the cloudLibrary, please reach out to me! I just need your annual circulation as reported on the last IPLAR.

  Bobbi Perryman- Vespasian Warner:We’re creating content.

  Julia - IHLS:Cassandra -

  Loretta Broomfield:Re having "virtual" or electronic board meetings--what does everyone plan to do?  We do not have a fancy phone system that allows conference calling and we don't have a Zoom account.

  Anna -IHLS:@ Bobbi How are you doing that and have you had a chance to measure its success?

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:Is anyone working on a curated list of resources for students and kids? I just saw one that I found helpful with a little one at home - cosmic kids on youtube.

  Bobbi Perryman- Vespasian Warner:I’m creating a free Zoom account and we’re going to see how that goes. The free version limits meetings to 40 minutes.

  Sherman PLD:Tumblebooks is inviting public libraries across North America  to email with subject line Free TumbleBooks in order to recieve free links to all three TumbleBook databases so they can be shared and accessed by their patrons from the comfort and safety of their homes.

  Julia - IHLS:There is an interesting group on Facebook:  Libraries Step Up (in times of crisis)

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:Diana Sussman looked at a paid Zoom account and it is $17.00 per month.   I also believe you can pay by the month.

  Susan Mullen, Herrin City Library:Free Resources

  Anna -IHLS:Cassandra, I am starting one for adults as well as children. Many Museums and zoos are live streaming events and also opening their digital collections

  Bobbi Perryman- Vespasian Warner:@Anna We’re using FaceBook. We’ve done lots of live streams in the past, but not like this. Our first one is Friday at 10.

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:Does anyone have questions for Casssandra Thompson regarding SHARE services?  This is the time to ask!

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Please note, everyone, who is planning virtual board meetings, there are some guidelines for what you have to do to be in compliance, such as public notice, etc. Available on the ILA website:

  Susan Mullen, Herrin City Library:I had a Board Meeting schedule for last night; 6 attended in person at spread out desks and 2 attended virtually through ZOOM. It was $14.99 a month.

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:@Anna, that is so great. I've been seeing a lot of information out on facebook, listservs, and via email blasts. It will be nice to have a list out there!

  Mahomet PL John:My children's librarian spent much of the last two days putting together a 4 page list of resources.  I haven't had time to vet it but she is super competent so I have no worries about it.  If you want a copy, email me at

  Matthew Hales - Newman Regional Library:How is work going on getting SHARE notifications to stop?

  Lora Holden:Ogden Rose is closed, and I am working my normal daytime schedule. My evening crew are available to assist me during the day if needed, but have not had to yet.

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:@bobbi, what a great way to keep service!

  Troy Brown - IHLS:If you pay for a Zoom account, it will also allow people to dial in using a regular phone number too.  So they don't have to have the app to participate with audio only.  At only $17/mo (if you pay month-to-month) it's worth the upgrade.

  Anna -IHLS:@ Diane thank you forsharing the board information.

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:@matthew, SHARE notifications have been suspended until we return to business as usual.

  Bobbi Perryman- Vespasian Warner:Troy - good to know.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Anna, yw

  Susan Mullen, Herrin City Library:I upgraded last night and it was only $14.99

  Celeste - Urbana Free:@Bobbi, how are you working w/ copyright laws re: storytimes.

  Matthew Hales - Newman Regional Library:Okay, thank you

  Bobbi Perryman- Vespasian Warner:We’re only using the authors/publishers that have given permission. All songs are public domain.

  Penny Eilers:Yes copyright and storytimes is my biggest question. I just did a virtual storytime with Mo Williams, which I think has been approved.

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):@Mohamet PL John, is that 4-page resources document something IHLS can share in the resources section of the IHLS COVID-19 page?

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:@celeste, didn't I see that Mo Willems has given permissions?

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:@Cassandra, I believe he did.

  Bobbi Perryman- Vespasian Warner:Yes, many authors have given permission. Penguin/Random house allows for live streaming, but you can’t keep the video.

  Mahomet PL John:Actually, here is a link to a non-edit version of our 4 page list of resources.  Only a few are Mahomet specific

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):Thanks for sharing!

  Bobbi Perryman- Vespasian Warner:I’m going out to switch to my desktop.

  Nichole (Millstadt):We're going live right now with our storytime making sure they're all Penguin this time. We've also created an FB group just so our patrons can have a place to talk if they want to.

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:Whatever resources are shared during this Chat, IHLS is happy to comine in a documetn and get it out to our members.  Don't worry about copying things down.

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:I saw that some of you have been dealing with patron complaints. How has it been at your library? Are patrons understanding?

  Susan Mullen, Herrin City Library:Excellent resource John

  Mahomet PL John:Feel free to use the resources we have found but bear in mind I have not reviewed them.  But the staff member who did has an MLS and is super smart and careful.

  Celeste - Urbana Free:thank you! re: storytimes & permissions.

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:Any questions for Susan Palmer regarding delivery?

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Am I supposed to be hearing someone talking or is this all text chat?

  Julia - IHLS:Directors' Chat are 'all text' chats

  Scott - Lake Land College-:All text, all the time...

  Loretta Broomfield:What's the plan for those items that are currently in delivery tubs either at the hub or in our libraries?  When things start rolling again, will they just be handled as if nothing ever happened???

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Ok great thanks!

  Susan IHLS:Hi Loretta! Yes, what we have done is have things "primed" for delivery to continue once we are back. If a library would like to retreive their items from their hub, please email/call your hub manager to arrange a tiem for that.

  Mahomet PL John:Can someone (Cassandra) talk about what automatic notices are being sent out to our patrons?  I don't want patrons who may not realize the library is closed to be getting overdue notices and rushing out to the library.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Hillsboro Public Library is closed to the public. But I will be here every day and my staff (part-time) clerks are given the option to work.

  Celeste - Urbana Free:is anyone asking staff to work at home and do you have a work at home policy/guidelines/agreement you can share?

  Susan IHLS:tiem or time....

  Jo - Greenville Public Library:@ Cassandra, we have only had a few complaints and they have all been from people in the most at risk age group, interestingly enough.

  Leslie B. (IHLS):@ celeste, we can send you the IHLS policy for working remotely.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:We haven't had compaints yet. I'm waiting for them to come.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Relatively recent research on how long the virus can live on surfaces: a few hours on cardboard, 3 days on plastic or stainless steel. Article from the NIH available on ILA's FAQ page (scroll down to the 2nd and 3rd questions):

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:@John - notices have been disabled until we are back to normal operations.

  Matthew Hales - Newman Regional Library:Heh I got a complaint live just now.

  Newton Public Library:I told part time staff not to report and I and the other full time staff are working limited hours. 

  Sherman PLD:My drop box is attached to my building.  I am rotating out my drop box (using recycling bins) and isolating each container for three days before checking in materials.  Are other libraries doing the same?

  Mahomet PL John:Celeste - at this time we have a combo o working on-site and remotely.  But NO POLICY so I made a COVID-19 Response plan, had it vetted by the board individually to uncover any objections, and that is what we are working from.

  Tina SMRLD:@leslie b ihls - how about sending it out to all of us, please?  remote working policy

  Julia - IHLS:If your library is closed but staff are working, do you have a lot to keep them busy for the next few weeks? What are they doing?

  Scott - Lake Land College-:It seems clear that a "essential personnel only" is coming, probably sooner than later, but no one is sure when. We have a few grouchy folks, but I am not worried about it.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:We have staff volunteering to work limeted hours. I have a staff with a chroic health condition who is working from home.

  Tina SMRLD:much of our staff are working remotely - everyone is being paid their regular work hours

  Mahomet PL John:We categorized people by "high risk" and not.  The "high risk" employees are not coming in at all.

  Deb Mason:All of my staff are part time except myself. I'm in the library daily. What are you having your staff work on remotely?

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:Our staff are only working three hours per day - only two staff at a time. They are answering phones and working on on-going projects.

  Mahomet PL John:@Cassandra thank you!  That is a relief.

  Tina SMRLD:we are closed

  Loretta Broomfield:So far I've had all staff come in and we've had things to keep us busy but I don't want to have them come in and have to search for things to do.  If you have staff staying at home, are they still being paid?

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:Yes, all of our staff is being paid.

  Esther Curry--CE Brhem Memorial PLD:Our full-time staff are rotating working a few hours every day. Just to get the bookdrop and shelve books (after they have been cleaned). I'm working on cataloging and other office things.

  Tina SMRLD:most recent thing our staff has done:

  Scott - Lake Land College-:Our regular staff are working full days, but we are only letting in faculty and staff. When our MOU for work from home gets approved, then I expect that the campus will go into the next level of restricted access

  Beth Fuchs:If you are only working staff 3 hours a day, will they receive full 8 hours pay?

  Mahomet PL John:I would love to share ideas about what projects library staff can work on from home.  A list of good webinars would be a great start.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:The one who is working remotely is answering our library email and creating guides for our e-resources

  Tina SMRLD:we are collecting and pushing info out to our community and in daily contact with the school district and parochial schools

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):I haven't had much complaints either. We stayed open yesterday so that I could give our patrons a 24 hour notice. So they got to get materials Monday and Tuesday.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:The rest are mostly working on inventory and RFID prep while they are in the building.

  Esther Curry--CE Brhem Memorial PLD:All of our staff, full and part-time will be paid for the hours they were scheduled to work.

  Tina SMRLD:managers are also assigning online training to staff - things we rarely have time for (using free resources like webjunction)

  Mahomet PL John:Could one of you IHLS people make a shared document we could use to list ideas for remote work and continuing education.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Our library is also promoting and offering all ebook services via Facebook. We normally "charge" a small fee for our Overdrive ebooks, but are discontinuing that for the time being so the library can continue to provide service during closure.

  Nichole (Millstadt):We're paying our staff, but I'm looking for online courses for them to take or projects I can send them during the shutdown.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:The online training is a good idea

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:I really like the idea of online training for all of us!

  Anna -IHLS:@John I love that idea. I have thought about that and I know there are several great customer service videos ot there and I think some of the university have mini-series.

  Mahomet PL John:Continuing education - online webinars is a great use of home time.  Something we rarely have the time to do.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:Are there any Hoopla libraries here? Are you upping your monthly limit?

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:For those of you that are still negotiating with your boards, ALA made the recommendation that library staff be paid through the duration, if that helps.

  Lora Holden:I really need to weed, but have not been trained for it. Can I take a web class?

  Celeste - Urbana Free:@Leslie thank you!  The Chamber reached out today to remind employers that if your colleagues are working at home, •           Call your insurance provider to make sure you are properly covered for remote employees.

  Beth Fuchs:Thank you! 

  Anna -IHLS:Lori yes there are things out there.

  Chris - Charleston PL:I am having all staff stay home. I am going in a few hours a day to check the Library email and voicemail and to clear out the book drop. I am not having my staff work on anything during this time, mainly because I know the majority of my staff do not have computers of their own and there is a decent number of them who do not have internet. They are all being paid their normal average hours worked.

  Julia - IHLS:WebJunction has a list of  free March webinars:

  Tina SMRLD:one of our selectors is purchaing more cloud library titles

  Sherman PLD:Chris are you checking the books in or isolating for 3 days when you get them from the dropbox?

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):That was my biggest question to. Is that if they are sent home or aren't coming to work, are they getting paid. For us they are hourly part-time staff.  Seems like many of you are paying them even if they aren't doing work.

  Tina SMRLD:I told her to get those macmillian titles we couldn't get until now - macmillan lifted the embargo starting friday

  Jill Schardt - Edwardsville PL:@Bobbi - We increased our Hoopla limit from 5-10.  patrons were excited on Facebook!

  Anna -IHLS:I will start a list of classes , etc. and post it so you can all add to it. Give me a day or 2. Google groups would be a great place to work on lists.

  Penny Eilers:My plan is to clean, weed, plan programming and plan summer reading program.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Tina I had the same thought regarding Macmillan!!

  Maria Dent Mt. Zion District Library:Maria from Mt. Zion - I just upped our Hoopla from a limit of 5 to 10 for the month.  It’s really the online downloadable we have exclusive control over right now.

  Celeste - Urbana Free:@Chris, how did you determine average hours? Over a period of weeks or months?

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:@Tina, that is great. I appreciate it! Lesley Z. is also ordering on Monday, Wednesday, and Fridays now.

  Chris - Charleston PL:I am isolating them. Luckily we have a pretty big work area behind our circulation desk, so I have room to spread them out.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:@Jill - thank you!

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:*While we anticipate increased demand.

  Susan Mullen, Herrin City Library:I secured paychecks for my part time staff at my board meeting last night. They will be paid through April 14th and then we will decide again.

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):@Mohamet PL John, we may do that. Nice idea. I can also add any policy and procedure documents libraries share with me to the IHLS COVID-19 page. There are some sample items there, now. So all, feel free to send them to me at

  Chris - Charleston PL:@Celeste We have a set schedule, so I know what they all would have worked if we were open.

  Mahomet PL John:We locked our book drops and are asking people to hold onto materials until we re-open.  There is reason to be concerned about books as a virus delivery method.

  Celeste - Urbana Free:check with your insurance company on training videos. We have Cincnnati through Gallagher, and we get to select up to 10 videos, including one which will cover the next state law re: sexual harassment.

  Scott - Lake Land College-:If we stay in our present state, we were going to start some stack manitenance tasks and then start inventory, but now we are all waiting on what happens if we get chased out

  Sherman PLD:Thank you John.  I agree.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:Same with ou employees. My board decided it wasn't fair not to pay the staff when we already have the funds and when it isn't their fault they aren't working.

  Mahomet PL John:I also spent $2500 on Library on the Go items yesterday - most of the remainder of my budget for the year.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):@ Lora Holden. I can send you my weeding guidelines if you want. Although they are different for each library. Email me at

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Bobbi, good for your Board

  Anna -IHLS:@Celeste that is great knowledge.

  Mahomet PL John:OH yeah we all have to have sexual harrassment training this year.  Perfect opportunity to get that done.

  Deb Mason:Our drop box is locked with a note.

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):Diane Foote shared this earlier, and it addresses the question by Mohamet PL John about virus transmission on items: "Relatively recent research on how long the virus can live on surfaces: a few hours on cardboard, 3 days on plastic or stainless steel. Article from the NIH available on ILA's FAQ page (scroll down to the 2nd and 3rd questions):"

  Susan Mullen, Herrin City Library:Same as John: We locked our book drops and are asking people to hold onto materials until we re-open.  There is reason to be concerned about books as a virus delivery method.

  Lora Holden:Thanks, Shelley.

  Tina SMRLD:tht sexual training is supposed to be avaialbe at the end of march

  Celeste - Urbana Free:I meant "new state law" not "next state law"

  Lindsey-WRPL:Our book return is locked M-F, open weekends and then we will wait to get it open so we can let the germs die. IN THEORY

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Thanks, Shandi!

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:We have also closed our bookdrops and told patrons to hold onto their items until we reopen.

  Tina SMRLD:lol sexual harassment not sexual training -oops sorry

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:A little levity is a good thing, Tina!

  Mahomet PL John:@IHLS this chat is going REALLY fast.  Will there be a transcript available afterword?

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):ROTFL

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):Yes, it will! Julia--details?

  Angie ---Trenton Public:Thought I would share a happy library moment.  We are open limited hours (10-2) as I stated earlier.  I just had a teen come in and check out War and Peace because "I've always wanted to read this but have never had the time"!

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:There will, John.  Julia Pernicka does a great job at that.

  Rick Balsamello:Tina, with most of the country heading for lockdown, I think there will be a lot of "sexual training" going on.  Just not sure we will pay our employees for it.

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:I just got to see a portrait of Bob Ross from my nephew...he was born with a crayon in his hand and now is shaping up to be quite a the artist. He'll have a lot of time to devote to his passion!

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):@Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD - That's exactly how I feel too. I don't want to punish my staff for something that isn't under our control. A couple of my staff members are dependent on the library financially in addition to their social security so I would hate for them not to get paid. I'm asking them to come in while I have work to do. But I told them that next week there is a possibility they may be sent home or asked not to come in. All of my staff have been super understanding! I love them.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:HAHAHAHA Rick

  Mahomet PL John:@Shelly The response plan we have put into place is very generous.  We are paying everyone for their regularly scheduled hours regardless of how much work they get done.

  Julia - IHLS:I can send the transcript out on the directors listserv

  Mahomet PL John:Julia thanks please do

  Michelle Barclay Public Library:Has anyone been able to get a hold of Zoom? I have called 7 times today and can't get to a sales person.

  Scott - Lake Land College-:They are SWAMPED

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:@Shelley - I also have a wonderful staff and I would never want to punish them. The board also pays for snow days and holidays, so they saw this as just a very extended snow day.

  Lora Holden:I didn't even realize we could lock the chute on our dropbox until yesterday, but now I have to find the key! The one that opens the back does not work on the front. We are not actually planning on closing the box. I am wiping covers with Clorox wipes and then leaving the cleaned books to sit out for a few days before reshelving. We are small and have low enough volume that we have room to do this.

  Mahomet PL John:I am working to get to each staff member to create a plan for what they will work on.

  Susan Mullen, Herrin City Library:Paying Staff: Same as John

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):We are still accepting books through our drop box but staff was told they can wear gloves and wipe the books down (that have jackets or protective covering) with clorox wipes. Should we close our drop box? (I'm not even sure how to do that because it's a slot). We are in a carnegie so old equipment.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:We just created a work schedule for our staff so there aren't too many here at once. We've also created a FAQ for them for answering phones.

  Mahomet PL John:@Lora I would like to do that but our volume is different.  Plus there is no way to disinfect the pages.  But the virus theoretically shouldn't live long on paper.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):@ Angie - Trenton Public. That's awesome! I saw some teens and parents checking out for teens yesterday!

  Lindsey-WRPL:My board really didn't want to pay PT staff which was disheartening

  Sherman PLD:Shlley, I am in the same position with drop box attached to building.  That's why I am rotating out bins each day and isolating each bin for 3 days.

  Lora Holden:Rick, lol!

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:I just decided I didn't want to risk infection and since we aren't checking items out, we weren't in any hurry to get the items out returned.

  Mahomet PL John:@Lindsay the reality is that we get our funding whether we are open or not, since we are tax funded.  Hope your board re-considers.

  Michelle Barclay Public Library:In Michigan, the Governor shut down all libraries. I would not be surprised if all the rest are shuttered here.

  Susan Mullen, Herrin City Library:Shelley, I didn't know how to close my drop box either, but there was a twist knob on the inside. I also added a not on the outside of the box and on the website and on facebook, that says the dropbox is closed and there will be no fines and do not leave your materials here or you might get a lost or damaged item fee.

  Lindsey-WRPL:I agree, and they FINALLY agreed through April, but my Treasurer brought up a good point, if the county isn't open to disburse money after May 1, we could be in a pickle

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:On our dropboxes, there were holes we would run bolts through to keep the chute from opening.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):@Mahomet PL John.  - Thumbs up. That's great!

  Esther Curry--CE Brhem Memorial PLD:We are keeping our bookdrops open. Staff are using gloves to handle materials and then storing the books for 3 days before checking them in. We just worried about items being returned when we reopened--it's easier to deal with them gradually and be able to let them sit for those 3 days.

  Scott - Lake Land College-:We are trying to get information out there for folks to hang onto items that they have until notified otherwise.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Honestly everyone, the way I see it, is that the employees pay is already budgeted, so why not pay them. That was how my board felt too.

  Matthew Hales - Newman Regional Library:Same

  Michelle Barclay Public Library:@ Shelley I AGREE! Not their fault

  Mahomet PL John:I was grateful that my board pretty much just accepted all of my recommendations without much comment.  It is times like this when good board relations is so important

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:When we have a reopen date, I will call in all staff the day before to prep the building and I'll ask patrons to start returning items the day before we open.

  Lindsey-WRPL:I am not disagreeing with you, just saying what my trustees said... my treasurer is the finance director for the city. it's his job to see big picture..

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Shelly, good for your Board.

  Matthew Hales - Newman Regional Library:I said I'd like for my assistant to be paid and one of my board members said "Oh, you WILL be paid!"

  Matthew Hales - Newman Regional Library:I was just like, "Yes, ma'am"

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:We have emergency funds to cover payroll for a couple of cycles if need be.

  Mahomet PL John:PLUS we are hurting the economy in general if we can afford to keep paying our people but do not because, through no fault of their own, they cannot come to work.

  Tina SMRLD:staff hours are already budgeted, so we are paying them - it won't help us at all financially not to pay the staff

  Deb Mason:Right now, staff is being paid.

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:Nice to see the goodness of so many people.

  Lindsey-WRPL:I am not disagreeing with anyone. I felt the same way. which is why they are currently getting paid.

  Scott - Lake Land College-:I'm afraid that my part-time staff are going to be SOL - but our President has said that he wants to try to maintain our PT employment to the extent that we can...

  Lindsey-WRPL:but i had to fight for it.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Good for you, Lindsey!

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):@Mahomet PL John. Good point. I was wondering about the paper having the virus. Not much you can do to clean paper! Oh you said hopefully it doesn't live long on paper. I would think it would be less than cardboard?

  Mahomet PL John:@Lindsey worth the fight.  Good for you!!

  Mahomet PL John:I would think it would be similar to cardboard

  Tina SMRLD:anyone looking into uv light "things" to disinfect materials?

  Lora Holden:Esther, same. I would rather deal with them slowly than be innundated once we re-open, and then they are ALL germy!

  Mahomet PL John:But I'm no epidemiologist, I just stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night

  Anna -IHLS:So many great and useful ideas being shared. You are all on fire. I know the worry., planning and fighting for your staff can be exhausting. You are all doing a great job. I think events will justify closings and you will always have kranky pants out there willing to complain.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Tina, we have not been able to find definitive info regarding the UV yet.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):@Sherm PLD: That's an interesting idea. Maybe I should change boxes. We literally use a cardboard box for our drop box on the inside below the slow. lol

  Tina SMRLD:@Diane - if/when you do I'm interested to know

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Yep, many inquiring minds interested in this.

  Esther Curry--CE Brhem Memorial PLD:@Lora-Exactly! They can still be contaminated up until they are returned depending on circumstances.

  Tina SMRLD:I saw somewhere - who knows where - that uv light boxes? are a few thousand dollars each

  Mahomet PL John:@Anna I would like to suggest that we schedule two Director's chats per week for the remainder of this situation.  If no one attends, then no harm no foul, but this is more efficient than calling and emailing people directly which is what I was doing.

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:I agree @Lindsey. Sometimes people have to think how they'd feel if the shoe was on the other foot!

  Mahomet PL John:The issue of large groups of germy books returning later is a big one.  I am still trying to figure out how to deal with that.

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:I just texted Anna something to that effect, John.  We can certainly make that happen.  We'll get some on the schedule and let you know.

  Jo - Greenville Public Library:Good idea, John!

  Celeste - Urbana Free:Also, have you all purchased your copy of the new Standards? I emailed Jeanna Urbanak about what we might see this year, and she replied with this:

  Celeste - Urbana Free:Hello all, Per Capita changes and requirements are working their way through the approval channels.  We hope to be able to announced plans in the coming months.  Right now I can tell you that “Serving Our Public 4.0 Standard for Illinois Public Libraries” will play heavily in future per capita cycles. In preparation for the coming announcement, it would be a good idea for library staff to begin reviewing the new publication in its entirety and the specifics will follow.Have a great day,Jeanne

  Mahomet PL John:It will probably involve quaranting books/items for at least three days after they return.

  Anna -IHLS:@John I think that is a good idea. It will be helpful to talk on a regular basis as we negotiate this time. There will be more challenges.

  Sherman PLD:Thank you for that update Celeste

  Julia - IHLS:Directors' Chats are typically on Wednesday. If there is a second, would Monday or Friday be the best?

  Mahomet PL John:We already have two copies of SOP 4.0. Interesting they took all the collection size standards out of it.

  Mahomet PL John:Monday to review what happened over the weekend

  Mahomet PL John:and how it applies to us

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:THat's a good point, John!

  Beth Fuchs:Have not received our copy of SOS .04 yet???

  Anna -IHLS:@Celeste great idea. WE sell them at a discount just go to our website for all of the details.

  Scott - Lake Land College-:My Librarian got a request to start working on a Libguide with Continuing Ed / training possibilities, so we'll be looking around for content that people make available...

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:Have you ordered a copy from IHLS yet, Beth? 

  Beth Fuchs:SOP although SOS might be more helpful right now!

  Lora Holden:Monday makes sense. My day off, but I can jump in from home!

  Mahomet PL John:The cost for library standards books should be the cost of printing and not a cent more.  Just my opinion.

  Beth Fuchs:Yes ordered a long time ago.

  Scott - Lake Land College-:Agreen, John

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:Any day works for me. It's not like I'm doing anything else right now!

  Tina SMRLD:we use these ozone machines to assist with disinfecting the restrooms on a regular basis, we've been using them in the main spaces of the library recently as well - overnight when staff are out of the buildings  to assist with disinfecting - gotta be careful though in  small spaces because it may trigger a fire alarm - just saying

  Lora Holden:I got my standards book within a week or two of ordering.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Beth did you order from IHLS or ILA? If ILA I can look it up?

  Rick Balsamello:4.0 costs a lot more than the cost of printing, even with a discount

  Anna -IHLS:So should we have meetings MOndays and Thursdays?

  Beth Fuchs:IHSL

  Angie ---Trenton Public:I would prefer Thursdays, please

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):re: SOP 4.0 costs, That makes sense, though, because it must have taken hundreds of staff hours to put it together, plus shipping costs

  Lora Holden:I like Monday and Thursday, Anna. Weekend review, and new gameplan.

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:@Beth, I can check and see where that might be.  The suspension of delivery might be a factor moving forward.

  Mahomet PL John:Monday and Thursday works for me

  Angie ---Trenton Public:Kansas just today cancelled the remainder of the school year for the entire state.  Illinois will probably do the same. 

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:Wow!

  Mahomet PL John:Things are evolving and changing so quickly - 3 or 4 days is a long time

  Beth Fuchs:Thanks Ellen!

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):THE WHOLE YEAR? YIKES!

  Penny Eilers:I'm expecting Illinois to do the same very quickly.

  Scott - Lake Land College-:So, for the humor quotient for the day - have people seen the YouTube video with the violinists in the toilet paper aisle?

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:I know, developments seemingly by the minute.

  Lora Holden:This is all so weird.

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):That's two and a half months! My family and I might hate each other by then, lol

  Ashley - Caseyville Public Library:Collinsville teachers and students were told to clean out their desks, lockers, and refrigerators

  Lindsey-WRPL:That's a REALLY long time out of school

  Lora Holden:Sewing, here I come!

  Amy Byers - Chatham PLD:@Bobbi, you asked your patrons when they wanted live storytimes. What was their answer?

  Lindsey-WRPL:I worry for the wellbeing of those kids.

  Mahomet PL John:I expect Priztker's next move to be ordering shelter in place.  At that point we will stop filling our lockers and keep staff at home entirely.

  Anna -IHLS:@Diane what sources do you use to keep track of the latest news

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:@Amy - So far morning is the winner.

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):I worry about the wellbeing of the parents! LOL

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:No, but I have seen the Mel Brooks video with his son:

  Esther Curry--CE Brhem Memorial PLD:Some are told that so that they can do deep cleaning.

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):Scott, can you share the link?

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Anna, mostly the dozen or so emails that come in every ten minutes or so!!!

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:@Amy - We're planning on Fridays and Tuesdays right now. We might add more.

  Scott - Lake Land College-:

  Lora Holden:Shandi! True!

  Rick Balsamello:I'm surprised the governor hasn't ordered the closing of all libraries in the state

  Angie ---Trenton Public:If my husband and I are quarantined in the house won't be the virus that kills him!

  Scott - Lake Land College-:LOL

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:I don't meant to be flip; social media (always verify sources); go back to sources we already cited to see if things have changed; etc.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:I am very disappointed at the lack of guidance from the state library.

  Lindsey-WRPL:True, but those kids arent getting any formal education for months on end? Who knows the state of their home life.

  Troy Brown - IHLS:@Angie HAHAHA

  Esther Curry--CE Brhem Memorial PLD:Ellen--I shared that on Facebook and then Facebook told me it was spam. Seems they were having issues with their spam filter.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Yes, FB is having an algorithm issue.

  Carol Brockmeyer:Why doesn't the state library give an opinion?

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:@ Esther----the Mel Brooks clip?

  Rick Balsamello:Bobbi, consistent with their lack of guidance on how to handle the minimum wage issue

  Don Pippin, Philo:yes

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):speaking of guidance from ISL, what would you like to see IHLS doing during this time?

  Esther Curry--CE Brhem Memorial PLD:Ellen--yes! Seems a lot of post about COVID-19 were just being automatically flagged as spam.

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:Bear in mind that the Illinois STate LIbrary is a division of the Secretary of State's Office and that is their governing body.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Can I ask the group's opinion on ILA advocating with the Governor to close libraries? Or leave it as a local decision? Right now the ILA Executive Board recognizes it as a local decision but encourages libraries to close.

  Elecia -ki mundy:t I think it is about elective surgeries d here at the mt. vernon hospital is that the governor is making an announcement  at 2 but I think it's about elsthe wors

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:I was grateful to ILA for giving us something.

  Mahomet PL John:I am a little surprised Lesle Bednar isn't here today.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Leslie Is here!

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:@ John, I know she was earlier in the conversation.

  Mahomet PL John:@shandi, this chat should have been Monday rather than Wednesday

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:Especially since the SOS office has offered nothing since a very basic letter on March 6th.

  Carol Brockmeyer:My board is waiting to hear from ISL and the govenor to make the decission on whether to close or not. HELP!~

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):@Scott, noted

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:Carol, you've seen ILA and ALA's recommendatiions, haven't you?

  Lindsey-WRPL:Can we refrain from "should haves" and try "I would have liked this" or "it would have been more beneficial"?

  Lora Holden:I never saw an official statement of direction after Monday's executive meeting. Plus I was dealing with being a polling place with no judges on board.

  Mahomet PL John:Fair enough

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:@Carol - Once the governor closed bars and restaurants so people wouldn't congrigate, it only made sense to my board to close the library.

  Lindsey-WRPL:we are all working our best to navigate this.

  Anna -IHLS:@Diane, yes please advocate that all libraies be closed and staff paid. Libraries are the perfect breeding grounds for this virus. I know we serve as a safety net for all kinds of services but at this point we may do more harm than good.

  Carol Brockmeyer:Yes and I appreciate ILA and ALA

  Rick Balsamello:Same here, Carol.  My board is reluctant.  Many issues to consider.  At the election yesterday, many patrons were very upset at the consideration of closing the library

  Scott - Lake Land College-:It's been quite frustrating rfor everyone to develop a plan and a backup, only to go from Plan A to Plan G in 24 hours or so.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Yes, Lindsey, agreed, we're all feeling our way

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:@Carol - many of our patrons fall into the high-risk catagory and my board considered it irresponsible to remain open at this time.

  Scott - Lake Land College-:It's just the nature of this situation

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:OK, Anna, thanks.

  Carol Brockmeyer:Does it take Jesse White to mention libraries to the govenor?

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:@Scott, I know that was meant to be funny, but to me it seemed ominous!

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:Did anyone else read the editorial from Library Journal about closing libraries? It was very good.

  Julia - IHLS:ALA press release:

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Carol, ILA can too but at the end of the day our statement is only a recommendation -- we have no enforcement capability.

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):Diane, could it be an A-B advocacy initiative? For example, advocate for metro areas to close and rural areas to be local decision? What does everyone think about that?

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:The LJ editoral was excellent, Bobbi

  Alyson T.:I'd love to know what educational links some of you are using for children/teens on your websites and Facebook pages?

  Julie Jarman (Staunton):I loved the Mel Brooks clip-

  Carol Brockmeyer:I know that it is a local thing but my board members wanted to know what the state says about closing? Whatever that means?

  Julie Jarman (Staunton):Humor in a time when everything else seems to be going haywire-

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Shandi, I think separating the recommendations like that does in effect mean local decision -- which is what the statement says now.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:You can find what we've been sharing here:

  Scott - Lake Land College-:There was a TRULY sobering link to a NYT piece on the pandemic that allows you to change contagion and mortality factors. When you have a 30% infection rate, and a 1% mortality rate (both of which are on the low side of numbers going around, that is nearly a million casualties in the US in a year.

  Celeste - Urbana Free:daily livestream with the Governor at 2:30

  Susan Mullen, Herrin City Library:Ideas for free resources

  Anna -IHLS:@Diane we have great concerns about our community and all of the people in need but library staff should not be martyrs. WE are vulnerablehuman beings too.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):So are people have story hour online then? via zoom or youtube? (I find that interesting...) we just cancelled our programs.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Anna, got it. That's how the ILA EB feels.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:We're doing our storytimes on Facebook - there's where we have the most followers

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):@Bobi Perryman can you share that link or article from the library journal on closing with us?

  Troy Brown - IHLS:I believe the Governor will be making his address from the Jackson Co courthouse in Murphysboro today.

  Susan Mullen, Herrin City Library:oooops wrong link FREE RESOURCES

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:@Scott, I agree! We've said that we'll know what to do in the next pandemic!

  Penny Eilers:We did facebook as well. My quality was not good. I need to work on that but the story time was great. Bobbi I would love to know what books you are using.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:@Anna - Yes, I have four staff over sixty, two with chronic health problems, and two who live with people with chronic health problems. I have to think about them.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Library Journal:

  Scott - Lake Land College-:ABSOLUTELY, Bobbi

  Tina SMRLD:ISL is closed - only Gregg and Joe natale are working - everyone else was sent home

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:We're getting close to 2:00.  So, we can plan on meeting on Monday, March 23rd at 1:00 and Thursday, March 26th at 1:00.  We'll set it up in L2 and looking forward to continuing the chat!  Hang in there everyone and stay well.

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:I saw the NYT article when Anna shared it this morning. Very alarming.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Thank you so much, IHLS!!

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):In addition to holding regular chats and sharing rsources, what else, if anything, could IHLS do for you guys that would be helpful during this crazy time?

  Julie Jarman (Staunton):very alarming, that NYT article.

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:Thank you everyone for your great suggestions, comments, and questions. Please reach out if you need any assistance.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Question.... If we have a health condition ourselves (even though I am young), if the virus spreads more in my area, should I convince my board to let me work from home?

  Ashley - Caseyville Public Library:The Governor already held a live press conference this morning around 10:30 from the St. Clair County Health Dept. But he did mention doing another one this afternoon

  Jo - Greenville Public Library:Thank you for doing this!  Stay safe everyone!

  Anna -IHLS:@Diane i guessed as much and deeply appreciate it. It is wonderful that we have ILA to help advocate for us. It would be great if others would too  can we send letters to the governor or the SOS. Would that be wise politically?

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:Thanks, Diane, I was having trouble finding it.

  Scott - Lake Land College-:PLEASE STAY SAFE

  Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:@shelley, YES. You might start now.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:@Penny - I'll share my children's libraian's list when she comes in tomorrow.

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:@shelley:  Absolutely!

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Anna, I think anyone should be encouraged to reach out. I believe their offices are largely closed too, which does pose a bit of a challenge, but clearly they're working on stuff.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):I actually don't mind going in every day because I have a lot of projects I can get done without interruptions. But once I run out of my big projects. Maybe I'll suggest it to them? I dunno.

  Mahomet PL John:This situation has truly been unprecedented and I think we can be very understanding of anyone not knowing quite how to deal with it.  But when societal issues start effecting the libraries in the way they have this week, I think it is helpful to have regular communication from leaders like IHLS, possibly the State library, ILA and ALA. Even if we don't know all the answers, it can be helpful for us to identify what questions we should be asking, what we need to consider, etc.  Communication is key.  ONce there start being 200+ post on the director's listservs, something is going on that requires attention.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Sure, Bobbi!

  Nichole (Millstadt):Is anyone hosting any online contests to encourage participation? Like poems or short stories or even book reviews? If so, what are some "prizes" we could give out? Maybe digital or via mail?

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:ILA has a daily morning email that goes out. Please, if you don't already get our ILA Alert e-news, sign up in the footer of the ILA website at

  Mahomet PL John:Thanks everyone.

  Julie Jarman (Staunton):I agree John, I am still going through all my emails..

  Tina SMRLD:some of our staff are planning an online scavenger hunt

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:Julia just reminded me that this chat is scheduled through 2:30.  Sorry!

  Tina SMRLD:thanks everyone

  Jo - Greenville Public Library:@Shelley, are you the only one working?  You should be okay if there is no one to infect you.

  Mahomet PL John:I am hoping to use Kahoot to do some online trivia competitions - we'll see if it works.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:I mean, a special edition daily virus email. The regular ILA Alert is only twice a week.

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):Diane, perhaps you can share the signup link?

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Jo, no my staff is working. But I might not have them come in next week. I actually do have special projects they are helping me with this week.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):@Jo, should I have them not come in next week just to protect myself?

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:An overabundance of caution is a good thing, Shelley.

  Jo - Greenville Public Library:@Shelley, it's not just working with someone, it is working with whomever that person has been in contact, and whomever those people have been in contact.  It is up to you how much of a risk you think there is.

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):Shelley, do you have a door you can work behind?

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):that's not a fix, but it would help

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):(work in a closed room, I mean)

  Celeste - Urbana Free:and wipe down the doorknob of that closed door...

  Julie Jarman (Staunton): Shelley- We have a medical doctor on our board, he is stressing social distancing. even with our small library staff. I am the only one here collecting the mail and checking on book drops.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):@Shandi, yes, but not sure how my door is going to protect me when I might have to go face to face with staff. But I do try to maintain distance. But not always possible.

  Julie Jarman (Staunton):Just sharing what Staunton is doing- we obviously are thrilled to have him on our library board during this stressful time.

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Shandi, sure, for folks who want the daily morning virus email from ILA, it is an embedded widget on the footer of the ILA home page:

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Hmmmm....Julie, I also have a doctor on my board. Maybe I should ask her opinion about the risk with having staff come in or the risk to myself. I think i'll call her now.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Thanks for the advice everyone.

  Jo - Greenville Public Library:@Shelley, that's a good idea

  Julie Jarman (Staunton):That would be great Shelley-

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:We are only allowing two staff to come in at a time and they are instructed to work on seperate floors of the building.

  Julie Jarman (Staunton):you might be able to work from home with her recommendations.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Is there an article that is recommending staff be paid, even if they aren't coming in to work. Again I think my board will support me, but we didn't discuss them getting paid when there was no work. They expected me to give them work and I knew I could, but wasn't sure for how long. So I would like to have that article just in case I need to back myself up.

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):Julie, that is lucky and fantastic.  wonder if it would be possible for other boards to invite doctor friends to speak to and advise them

  Carol Brockmeyer:ALA put out a great statement about library staff should be paid during this time.

  Lora Holden:We are rural and small, and are in the midst of a great leap forward in technology upgrading. So we barely have anyone on board who interact via social media. Maybe we can get it rolling now!

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Shandi and Bobbi, That's the one good thing is that I work in the basement. So I'm not constantly around staff. It's mainly only if I need to help them or do something on the computer.

  Lindsey-WRPL:We are currently working half normal hours but paying full hours. I was trying to slow the progress of our projects so we can stay busy longer..

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:I certainly support the statement someone made about those salaries already being in the budget.

  Lora Holden:Tina, I would love to see what your scavenger hunt looks like.

  Julia - IHLS:along with the online free webinars, also has free courses library staff can take.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Ellen, I said that!

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):My board said it and agreed too!

  Julie Jarman (Staunton):Let Hillsboro know that the Staunton staff is being paid during the shut down since it was budgeted already-- It might help your board to give it some consideration. I know others libraries are paying their staff as well

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):I would love to give my staff training during this time, but not all of them have computers at home or are tech savvy. 

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Webjunction is a great resource though! I've used it for board member training.

  Celeste - Urbana Free:@Shelly    "we encourage libraries to ensure that all library workers receive fully paid leave, including health coverage, while libraries are closed."

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:Anything we can do to keep people's lives as stable as possible is a good thing.  Remember that these people are members of our communities and we want to keep all our communities as strong as possible.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:I also liked what somone said about paying staff being better for the local economy. If I pay my staff, they're spending the money at the local stores and ordering carryout. If I don't pay them, that money just sits in the bank and does no good for anyone.

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:Right, Bobbi!

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Julie, thank you I appreciate it! Again I think the board will agree with me, and I don't forsee it being a problem. But just in case.

  Julie Jarman (Staunton):I love webjunction.  great idea!

  Tina SMRLD:Lora - watch our facebook page - it'll be put up there when it's ready

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Thanks Celeste! Excatly what I was wanting. Sometimes my board needs to "hear it from someone else" other than me. That's why I like to back up my recommendations and requests.

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:Social Media will be a great outlet for sharing.

  Anna -IHLS:Maybe we could discuss and share strategies on how to continue to haved staff paid when we meet on Monday.

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):I also agree Bobbi!

  Tina SMRLD:much of the training you would watch on a computer can also be watched on a cell phone

  Anna -IHLS:That is a great point Tina

  Celeste - Urbana Free:remember that if staff have limited resources, like a limited cell plan, and you ask them to do work that uses those resources up, you may need to compensate them for the overage to their cell plan, etc.

  Lora Holden:Thanks, Tina. I'll check you guys out!

  Mahomet PL John:If it helps, I read somewhere that the major cell companies were going to suspend overage fees for data for the next 60 days.  But I can't cite the source so...

  Celeste - Urbana Free:

  Anna -IHLS:@Celeste excellent point, esp. in light of new law. But it may be worth it to keep people actively engaged during this time.

  Celeste - Urbana Free:@Anna - agreed! Just want people to know that it's a consideration.

  Julie Jarman (Staunton):Shandi, that would be a great idea-- sharing the knowledge with the public.. drs and library boards, etc.

  Mahomet PL John:That is a great article

  Sherman PLD:I think we would be smart to consider the fact that we don't know the underlying health conditions of all our staff in determining who is "at risk" 

  Mahomet PL John:@SHerman  My plan allowed any employee to label themselves "at risk" without penalty.

  Sherman PLD:Very good John! 

  Celeste - Urbana Free:I'd love the opportunity to talk offline with people who are paying staff to be home but only asking them to work a % of hours and get paid for full hours. If you LMK who you are, and I'd be happy to summarize for the group.

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:it's not only staff, but could well be others in their household.

  Sherman PLD:Agreed Ellen

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:@Sherman - I told staff that coming in was on s volunteer basis and that they would be paid no matter what. I also emphasized that I would not think any less of anyone who did not feel comfortable coming in.

  Mahomet PL John:As I said, my board supported a very employee-friendly plan.  I am grateful.

  Celeste - Urbana Free:to be clear, all our staff are home right now, and we've asked them not to work this week while we get a procedure/guideline in place, and everyone is being paid what they were scheduled for this week.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:We have staff coming in toorrow and Friday. I and my business manager have been the only ones in the last two days.

  Sherman PLD:Everyone is staying at home besides me at the moment.

  Mahomet PL John:At this time, we are still scheduling employees for the on-site telephone answering shifts from Noon-6, but that will change depending on the situation.  ANd as I said, anyone could declare themselves "at risk" and not be expected to do it.

  Lora Holden:I was thinking about virtual games, such as chess and Scrabble that people could play "together" online. We have a weekly get-together that we have nicknamed "Scrabblepalooza", and it is not easy for them to give it up. But they are all senior citizens. I would like to keep the social contact going for them.

  Julie Jarman (Staunton):Our board also made the decision to pay the staff while we are in shut down -  I was very relieved and grateful

  Carol Brockmeyer:I have a very conservative board right now. I want a new board;(

  Ashley - Caseyville Public Library:Pritzker getting ready to go live

  Ashley - Caseyville Public Library:

  Carol Brockmeyer:Let's hope that Jesse has mentioned libraries to him.

  Celeste - Urbana Free:we are going to change our voicemail to list the CU Public Health Department phone number for those looking for it who don't have internet access. We've also put their phone number (plus website and email address) on signs on our doors.

  Rachel Miller - Forsyth Public Library:Is there currently an IHLS list of libraries that are closed?  Could we also add columns for who has staff working and if they are getting paid?

  Mahomet PL John:Celeste I like your approach as well - the reality is this blew up so fast that we did not really have time to get our ducks in a row in terms of what the policy was, what expectations were, what projects people would work on etc.  Outside of coming in to fill lockers and answer phones, my staff working from home are basically self-driected this week. 

  Leslie B. (IHLS):hi everyone. i don't want to take up too much real estate... I do wish to express how heartwarming it is to consistently see our members come together in good times and chalenging ones.

  Mahomet PL John:Thanks Ashley

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):@Rachel, staff is literally working on that right now

  Julie Jarman (Staunton):Let s hope too, considering the problems that Chicago is having with its libraries.. and the mayor not in agreement on closures.

  Rachel Miller - Forsyth Public Library:Great!  Thank you. 

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):@Rachel, it doesn't include the second part of your request, though. I'll bring that up to staff later.

  Ashley - Caseyville Public Library:You're welcome John!

  Mahomet PL John:I'm going to bail.  Feel free to email if I can help you with anything.

  Leslie B. (IHLS):and especially the numbers of libraries paying staff while not at work. IHLS is doing the same for operations (driving/sorting) staff.  regarding guidance from state agencies it is my perspective that every library is self-governing.

  Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:Thank you everyone!

  Peggy  MVE:Thanks for all the info.

  Leslie B. (IHLS):i hope that helps? although I too will admint at times it is frustrating!

  Julie Jarman (Staunton):Thank you everyone.. so good to talk with you all

  Carol Brockmeyer:Yes Leslie I know that. My board wants to hear from the higher ups for whatever reason.

  Mahomet PL John:Every library is self-governing but recommendations from system are considered by local leaders

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:The events are on L2 for Monday the 23rd and Thursday the 26th.  I'm sure we'll have lots to talk about.  Be good to yourselves, everyone!

  Susan Mullen, Herrin City Library:Thank you

  Mahomet PL John:And aggregating informations (for example, 94% of system libraries have closed) is also very helpful for local decision making

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):For anyone interested, there are a couple of other COVID-19 related library events being scheduled by other organizations. We're adding them to the IHLS COVID-19 page as we learn of them.

  Ashley - Caseyville Public Library:Perfect - thank you so much everyone!

  Jo - Greenville Public Library:Thank you all. 

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Thank you, IHLS!

  Anna -IHLS:Thanks to all of you.

  Leslie B. (IHLS):Thanks @ Diane / ILA for joining us!

  Diane Foote, Illinois Library Association:Sure!

  Carol Brockmeyer:Thank you Diane for all you do.

  Carol Brockmeyer:It is appreciated

  Ellen Popit, IHLS:See you Monday!

  Anna -IHLS:Goodbye and stay healthy and safe

  Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS Edwardsville):

  IHLS Admin:Thanks everyoen

  Shelley Kolb (Hillsboro Public Library):Thanks everyone!