TRANSCRIPT: COVID-19 Directors' Chat - April 29, 2021


Directors' Chat
Thursday, April 29, 2021


Anna Yackle IHLS: "May, more than any other month of the year, wants us to feel most alive."--Fennel Hudson

Anna Yackle IHLS: "The world's favorite season is the spring. All things seem possible in May."--Edwin Way Teale

Anna Yackle IHLS: "As full of spirit as the month of May, and as gorgeous as the sun in Midsummer."--William Shakespeare

Anna Yackle IHLS: Welcome all ! "You are as welcome as the flowers in May."--Charles Macklin

Bill at C.E. Brehm Memorial Public Library:  Any word on non-res cards for kids rules from the state library

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Sorry  Bill, I have not heard anything. 

Anna Yackle IHLS:  It is  one o"clock so let's get the show on the road. How is everyone doing?

Sharla Riley~ Doyle Public Library:  Hi Anna, Everyday is a good day here in Raymond!

Pam - West Frankfort Public:  Does anyone know when the Live and Learn construction grants will be awarded?

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  We may the potential to build a covered area like a small pavilion.   Does anyone else have something similar at their library?

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  @Bill, Greg from the state library talked about it at the last RAILS members video.  Essentially, he said that they were working on the administrative rules for it right now. I don't have non-res cards, so I didn't listen to that section very well, so you might want to refer back to the video:

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  @Kathleen, we are wanting to do something similar.  Jean from Williamsville has also worked on this type of thing. I would reach out to her to get more information

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Kathleen - This is something we really want to build at our library for outdoor programs.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Would anyone from the state library or  a recipient like to  reply to Pam about the Live and Learn Construction Grants?

Rachel S. (Arcola):  Two months into being a new director and I've hired my very first employee! I'm excited to have another excited body working in the library.

Ginger - Athens:  Has anyone become an Advantage member on OverDrive recently? I am having trouble getting the sales people at OverDrive to get back to me... I had to call after not hearing from them in five days, then sent application... it's been three more days....

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Have you heard about this effort started up north: At this point, we are looking to see what interest there is for this in the Illinois library world and are asking for those interested to fill out this survey so we can learn more about what you would find helpful/look for in a group that offers regular high quality virtual programming. 
Library administration and any staff that offers programming is encouraged to fill out this survey: Multiple surveys for libraries are ok. It should take about 3-5 minutes to complete the survey. Anyone that fills out the survey will be added to a list that we will use to keep everyone up to date on what is happening with this group’s joint library programming efforts. If you have any questions, contact us:

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Rachel, congratulations.

Rachel S. (Arcola):  Does anyone have a new employee training checklist/manual they're proud of that they might share with me?

Rachel S. (Arcola):  My email is

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  @Anna, we filled out that survey. It was exciting to talk about programming collaboration between libraries. I just don't know how to know how to budget for that sort of thing.  I just took a stab in the dark.

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Rachel, congrats!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  I also made up numbers...

Teresa (Paris):  @Pam As far as I know, there hasn't been any official word from the state library on the construction grants. I attended the committee meeting earlier this month but that's all I know.

Sharla Riley~ Doyle Public Library:  @ Rachel, Congratulations!

Rochelle/Lincoln Lib Springfield:  Hi Anna--my team was very excited about the shared programming opportunities!

Pam - West Frankfort Public:  Tereas - Thank you

Bill at C.E. Brehm Memorial Public Library:  I asked about next year and they said they had more than enough to use the money for this year

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  @Rochelle, I just saw that you're doing a storywalk at Lincoln Memorial Gardens. THAT IS AWESOME. :-)  

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  @Anna I had to ask if IHLS libraries were allowed to fill out the survey because it looked like a RAILS initiative.

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  @Ginger I asked them for a magazine quote last week and it took a couple days but they got back to me.  I asked for a lowered rate than what they quoted and never heard back...

Rita Stephens  ISL:  Mark Shaffer does Live and Learn construction grants.  217-524-4901

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  Some questions for those of you considering a pavilion or who already have one:  Do you have picnic tables there?  Is the space available to anyone?  Must they have a reservation?  Who monitors usage?  Who takes care of the trash generated from an outside group?  So many possible issues ...

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Rachel , You may also want to look for examples on  the web and I would definitely get the input of current staff.  @ Amy and Rochelle, I agree with you about the excitement and the benefits that can be derived from shared programming.

Rochelle/Lincoln Lib Springfield:  We're doing a ribbon cutting tomorrow morning, Amy. COme on out!

Jackie CAMP:  We have phase 1 of our book walk installed...we partnered with our local FFA.

Bill at C.E. Brehm Memorial Public Library:  Do you think they'll do construction grants next year?

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Rochelle, congratulations how exciting?

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Bill, I was told by Mark that they will not have any significant construction grants for a few years most likely

Ginger - Athens:  @Carrie, interesting... I want to give them money!!! Email me back! ha!

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  @ Bobbi This is not for certain but the Lion's Club is interested in helping with a project for the community and asked if we needed anything.  I am presenting the project on May 6th to the Lion's Club so I will know if we are moving forward from that point.  I still need to present it to our board but I have kept them informed of the happenings.  We could really use it for the SRP as well.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  That's the main reason we want one.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Jackie. that is very exciting.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Good luck!

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  Good work Rochelle!

Rochelle/Lincoln Lib Springfield:  All I did was say "okay!" All thanks go to an Adult Services librarian, Rachel Blomer.

Ginger - Athens:  @Jo, we treat our pavilion like a second meeting room. It can be reserved. But mostly it isn't. We have old 8 ft tables and metal chairs on it. We'll use it for SRP.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Kathleen, seems like a no brainer  and a real positive for the community. I hope they go for your presentation.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Ginger, i see a lot of advantages to having a pavilion, but being met with some resistance.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We're looking at opening up seating areas and bringing back newspapers and a few other multi-touch items based on new guidance from our health department. Is anyone else opening seating areas?

Ginger - Athens:  @Jo, our teens use it after school as a place to hang out. They can't eat in the library, but take their phones and snacks outside quite a bit. I can see it from our circulation desk though, which helps a ton.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  I love all of the Story walks you are doing. I would  love to film them all.  Has anyone ever done highlights from an adult book?

Bill at C.E. Brehm Memorial Public Library:  We never closed ours (except when we were totally closed) just put up alot of the chairs.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Gingeer, yes, placement would be key.

Rochelle/Lincoln Lib Springfield:  Bobbi--we have limited seating.  No newspapers yet, but I think it is almost time since transmission by surface isn't really an issue..

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  @Bobbi we have newspapers but no seating.

Jackie CAMP:  We are hoping to partner with our county museum to put on a display about our town from the past

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  @Bobbi, yes thanks for sending that guidance yesterday.  I added quite a few chairs to the building yesterday  and will add a few more on Monday.  The only place that won't have soft seating is children's.  I don't want parents getting comfortable and not watching their children, especially when there are no toys.  The newspapers are accessible.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Rochelle that is an excellent point about transmission.  Has everyone given up on quarantining items?

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @ Jackie - that sounds cool!

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Anna, we are still doing 3 day here

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  We are still quarantining for 2 days. 

Diana Donahoo_CentraliaRLD:  we are not quarantining

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Thanks for the input, everyone! @Amy - we're also more hesitant with our children's area, mostly for social distancing.

Rochelle/Lincoln Lib Springfield:  Anna--we stopped quarantining a couple months ago

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Anna, we still quarantine for 3 days.

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  @ Ginger - would it be possible to get a photo of what your pavilion look like?  I am not sure if I should have a metal structure or  more of a pole barn style structure...

Bill at C.E. Brehm Memorial Public Library:  Plan on dropping quarantining in June

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We stopped quarantine when the system did.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Jackie and Bobbi, that does sound cool. Bobbi I know you have a very active local history section.  I always love reenactments.

Mary Ray/Sidell District Library:  We stopped quarantine when IHLS did.

Susan IHLS:  HI! Thought I would jump in.  IHLS now has no quarantine of the items. However we are still practicing the safe practices that we had put into place in our hubs. DOGs (Delivery On the Go) have been re-instated which we realize makes a big impact on the borrowing patterns.

Kay Burrous  South Macon:  We stopped quarantinewhen IHLS did

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Our volunteers are coming back to work in our bookstore (no cafe until stage 5) and our study rooms are opening on Monday.  We stopped quarantine last week. 

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  For quarantining we are checking in books the next day instead of the day they are returned..  It is a slippery slope.  We have had more and more people come in without masks more so because they are out of the "habit" and feel comfy having had the vaccine....

Ginger - Athens:  @Kathleen, yes! Ours is part of the building - so all concrete and brick, but you can at least get a feel for it.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Susan, thanks for jumping in. Good remindere for staff to protect themselves with hand washing  procedures.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We just started meeting-room rental again at the start of April.

Teresa (Paris):  We scheduled Shakespeare in the Park for Sept 18. A big step forward!

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Teresa, that is a big step and very exciting.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  Our school went back to remote learning until next week due to a major outbreak of COVID among the students. 

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  We aren't ready to move forward.

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  I just want to say how happy I am to be getting materials in delivery so quickly again.  Delivery on the Go is making me so happy!!  And my patrons happy.  Glad to be speeding that process up again!!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Jo - I don't blame you at all!

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Jo, that is too bad. :(

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Who among you are planning on going to ARSL in Reno this year?

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Every time I bring a service/space back, I feel like I need to update the policy first.  It's a lot of work. :-P

Susan IHLS:  We stopped the quarantine time after including the Delivery Working Group feed back, based on the CDC release of their document that basically says that the transmission via surface is extremely low. I do not believe they could point back to one case of COVID that was directly attributed to surface transmission.

Teresa (Paris):  @Bobbi - Are you requiring masks and social distancing in your meeting room? I know that once the door is closed, all that will be lost.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Anna - we are planning to go with the understanding that we might not. We being me and my business manager.

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  @ Susan - I looked at the delilvery policy and it indicated that the DOG's needed to be "marked".  I had been placing the DOG items on the top of the tub.  I also need a new list for my route to know which libraries are designated as DOG after the drivers stop here.  Can you direct me to a site that will give me that info?

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Teresa - yes, we are. We also aren't allowing food or kitchen access.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  And we're limited to 20 people. Our room can hold 150.

Susan IHLS: are doing it correctly by not putting the items in the tubs. I will copy the link on our website for the routes....give me just a minute!

Rochelle/Lincoln Lib Springfield:  We are not opening meeting rooms yet because we know we'll lose control of masking and distancing.  We are, however letting city depts use for city business.

Susan IHLS:

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Bobbi and all, I love the ARSL conferences and I have never been to Reno  but I am still hesitant, even being vaccinated. I know Erin from Crab Orchard is planning on it.

Bill at C.E. Brehm Memorial Public Library:  We are also limiting numbers and requiring masks. The one outside group that is going to regularly meet here is a finger-printing organization and they are going to use appointments to avoid the lines we used to have.

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  I'm waiting on meeting rooms too.  I want to update policy, but I we also don't see a big demand for meeting rooms over the summer.  I'm planning for the fall.  I'm also still using our spaces for storage of more chairs and other needs

Rochelle/Lincoln Lib Springfield:  We're still enforcing mask wearing

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  Not ready for meeting rooms either for the reason Rochelle stated.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Is anyone finding their public to  still be hesitant to gather  or  be in the library?

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  @ Susan I thought I should mention that there was an article , in which they are sort of hedging on the surface transmission.  It did say that the primary transmission is reparatory droplets but it was not ruling out surface transmission.

Christi-Glen Carbon:  I'm waiting on the meting rooms until we have a second one clear of any COVID storage stuff, hopefully by the beginning of June.  I'm planning on going to ARSL

Rachel S. (Arcola):  I attended ARSL for the first time last year and wish it could be virtual again. I don't think I'll be able to afford to go, which is a shame because it was a wonderful conference!

Susan IHLS:  @kathleen Thank you!

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  @ Susan - thank you for the link:)

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Anna - not really. Our foot traffic is down compared to a normal April, but it's been increasing. We're still trying to get the word out that our building is open.

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Same Bobbi.  We sent out our first print newsletter in over a year in early April to hopefully help raise awareness of us being open

Bill at C.E. Brehm Memorial Public Library:  We are running about 3/4s on circ and attendance

Ginger - Athens:  Our numbers are way up here. Our people are ready to be out.

Rochelle/Lincoln Lib Springfield:  Foot traffic picking up--sometimes even more patrons than staff! Curbside use way down. But nothing even close to the before-times

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Rachel, it was nice having a virtual conference. I wonder if they would consider doing a hybrid with one rate for in pereson and another for virtual attendance. I liked it because you could go back and view what you missed and review what you saw. 

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  Foot traffic has picked up here. It isn't quite what it used to be, but we are seeing more and more people come back.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We had our first in-person children's program since October and 35 people came. That's more than a typical after-school program for us, so we were pleased.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @ Bill - that's where we are too.

Ginger - Athens:  @Kathleen - this should take you to a post which shows our outdoor space:

Ginger - Athens:  This was before we put the tables outside.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Speaking of meetings we will be having a Members matter on Thursday May 13 at 10 am.  the presenters for the first half will be from the Illinois State Court system and they will be talking about tools , resources and ways public libraries could partner with them to better serve our communities.  Especially in rural settings.

Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:  This is just a reminder that we will have a membership meeting on May 5 The big item up for discussion is moving forward with a mobile app for SHARE. If you'd like more information about the app before our meeting, it can be found at The vote will open the following week. I look forward to seeing everyone there!

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  We see about half the patrons we did before COVID.  I have reinstated celebrating obscure holidays such as National Pretzel Day and National Chocolate Chip Day to encourage people to come in.  Funny how a free snack size bag of pretzels or a chocolate chip cookie will bring people in.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  That's really clever!

Anna Yackle IHLS:  We are planning our Member Day  event. Would you feel comfortable attending an in person event? We are looking at  doing another virtual event like last year.  Does anyone want to request any specific topics they would like us to cover?

Jackie CAMP:  good idea @Jo

Rochelle/Lincoln Lib Springfield:  OH! Does anyone know what happened the Attorney General link to OMA/FOIA training? Need to get a board member trained and the page keeps coming up with an error message.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @ Anna - would this be in November?

Ginger - Athens:  I have a couple random questions - has anyone used semi-permanent paint on sidewalks? i know Auburn did that awesome course last year... I tried to email to ask what they used and couldn't get ahold of anyone. If i paint something, I don't want it to wash off right away!

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Jo love it, great marketing.

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  @Ginger  That is so very nice.  I love that the builders anticipated a need for outdoor space.  We are looking at a separate structure.

Diana Donahoo_CentraliaRLD:  @Rochelle their website was hacked and they don't have a time frame on getting it back up.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @ Bobbi , we have not set an exact date but yes probably  November.

Rochelle/Lincoln Lib Springfield:  Anna--too soon for me to express my comfort level in attending in-person later in the year.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Ginger - yes! We did an obstacle course last fall and it's still mostly there. It needs some touch up. Patrons of all ages love it.

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Cassandra, any word on a new mobile app? I just received my renewal for Boopsie...whcih will now put me on Solus. It is 1890, which is a lot better than the 4k someone else was paying. BUT...when will the consortium have a new app? I really don't want to pay more than I have to.

Ginger - Athens:  Second question - does anyone use mailchimp for library marketing to patrons?

Rochelle/Lincoln Lib Springfield:  Diana--wow. thanks. that website is HORRIBLE, by the way.

Ginger - Athens:  @Bobbi - what paint did you use?

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Anna - by November, I would probably feel fine with in-person unless things go really wrong.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Ginger - acrylic craft paint.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  I ask local businesses to sponsor a day.  The grocery store donated the bags of pretzels.  The bakery is giving us cookies.  When I advertise the day, I give credit to the sponsoring business.  It is a win - win situation.

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  Anyone on here have the Professional Version on Canva?  I want it, but don't want to pay the $119/yr.  Ideas?

Ginger - Athens:  @Bobbi, that's easy enough. Thanks

Jackie CAMP:  I would feel comfortable, especially if the numbers keep dropping.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @ Ginger - painting it took a full eight hours, so be warned.

Rachel S. (Arcola):  @Ginger - I used Mailchimp at my former library job for our event newsletter. Loved it!

Ginger - Athens:  @Bobbi, Oh heavens. OK.

Jackie CAMP:  what does your activities include Bobbi?

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @ Ann, I have my vaccine and would feel ok attending an in person meeting. Online is more convenient, but it is nice to see everyone now and then. It has been awhile!

Ginger - Athens:  @Rachel, I have logistic questions about using it. Can I email you?

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  *Anna

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  @ Anna - it's early days for me to know if I would feel comfortable being in person.  I think the summer will give me a good indicator of what is going on with the numbers.

Rachel S. (Arcola):  @Ginger - Absolutely!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Hopping, spinning, jumping, walking on lines.

Jackie CAMP:  thank you

Rochelle/Lincoln Lib Springfield:  Carrie--if you have $ for the pro Canva, it's totally worth it.

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Carrie, we have Canva. We use it quite a bit.

Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:  @Michelle, the SHARE Executive Council has recommended that we move forward, but it requires a vote from members. Our membership meeting is scheduled for May 5, with the vote to follow on May 12. If it goes through, we would plan to start on 7/1/2021. I hope that helps!

Rachel S. (Arcola):  @carrie - It's worth the money.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Anna, I know it doesn't help you with planning ahead, but I would prefer to see what the numbers are closer to the time.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Carrie - our pro version is $13 per month. We've found it well-worth it.

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Cassandra, that does help. It gives me a timeline. Hopefully they will let me stay on Boopsie until then!

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  @Rochelle & Michell - thanks I had it at my old job and miss the Pro just using the free...  didn't realize it cost quite that much, but its so nice!!  Wasn't sure if it had a discounted rate anywhere, and wanted to check before I paid that full price.  Thanks again

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Carrie, I agree that Canva is worth the money

Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:  Michelle, another option is to go ahead and move forward with Solus. I know that Belleville went live earlier this year, so everything is already set up in our system.

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Carrie, yes, that is what we pay

Jackie CAMP:  Cassandra, if I will be on vacation can I cast my vote early or will it be open for a while

Anna Yackle IHLS:  We may have the Member Day virtually  in the fall and then an in-person - let's celebrate getting to the other side of covid event in the spring .  Still looking at options.  I feel that  you should  a.) be celebrated for all of your hard work, tough decisions, and showing up and b.) celebrate togethere and enjoy each others company in-person.  We are considering everythig right now.

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  We aren't paying for the canva pro.  Am I forgetting that bill or what? I thought they had a free non-profit or something rate that was for libraries. Am I not remembering that right?

Ginger - Athens:  Canva is free for non-profits. If you have a 501c3 for your friends group, you should be able to save the $13/month!

Jackie CAMP:  does Tech Soup offer canva?

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Cassandra, ok...that is good to know. I may have to get on it quicker than the consortium has it available. We'll see what I can arrange from my end. Boopsie acts up all the time. I haven't been able to access my statistics in many months. I can't wait to move to Solus!

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Ah! That's what it was.. We used our friends 301c3.. ok.  Thanks for the help to my memory

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Ginger, is that the pro version thoguh?

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  501c3 that is

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  @Amy - I hope you are right, that would make my day!!  But we aren't a 501c3  we are a 170(c)1

Ginger - Athens:  @Michelle, yes

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Ginger, I am paying 119 for something I could have for FREE???? Are you getting it for free through Canva or buying through Tech Soup or elsewhere?

Ginger - Athens:  I spent all morning on Canva... making my SRP calendar... i close my eyes and see those darn crayons.

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  Can libraries use the 501c 3 status through ILA if you are a member?  It seems like someone told me that while back.  I could be all wrong, though.

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  Can we use the State Libraries 501C3 status for that?

Ginger - Athens:

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Ginger THANK YOU!

Ginger - Athens:  tax exempt won't work. must be 501c3. I know that much

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Ginger, we have a Friends Group so that works for us

Anna Yackle IHLS:  here is the link to what ILA can offer for libraries looking for 501(C) 3 status

Ginger - Athens:  Made this on Canva yesterday:

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Speaking of friends and 501c3s... we changed our email client to google suite for free with their 501c3.  It has been great to work with staff via google drive and such

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Ginger, that looks great!

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  You are all the best!!  Thanks for the help!!  Every bit of savings helps!

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Amanda Standefer  wearing  her non-profit funding hat has said that  the 170 (c) public library status is usually accepted by non-profits but you need to contact them and explain it to the organization.  I don't know if people have had success doing that or not but she has.

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Amy, thank you for mentioning that. I used to ahve Google Suite and miss it!

Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:  @Jackie, unfortunately, it won't open until May 12, but it will be open for at least a week. We usually leave it open longer, because it can take some time to reach quorum.

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  @Michelle, I was paranoid that google would find out that we were using it instead of the friends, so I asked to make sure that the library and it's staff could use it.  Google was fine with it. 

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Amy, thanks so much for letting me know

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  @Ginge That looks awesome and it is a super idea to get students to stop by the library.  Our church had Kona Ice for a couple of years in a row  on the last day of  VBS and they were great.

Ginger - Athens:  @Kathleen, we love Kona! I also have a son with autism, so I love what their family does and stands for.

Jackie CAMP:  that looks great @Ginger, thanks Cassandra,

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Ginger your creation is beautiful and you have a lovely library too.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Please don't forget to register for Member's Matter on May 13.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  We have  only a few moments left any  last minute , must be shared items?

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Thank you all for coming and the wonderful conversation.  i enjoy these chats so much.  We will see you all next week

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  @Ginger I did not know that they gave back to communities.  I was just a lucky participant in the "free" shaved ice for VBS;) It makes you want to support their business knowing they are helping others instead of just themselves.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Thanks everyone!

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Good bye!

Jackie CAMP:  Thank you