TRANSCRIPT: IHLS Directors' Chat - February 3, 2022


Directors' Chat
Thursday, February 3, 2022


Anna Yackle - IHLS :  We are not sure how many people will be attending today but if we have under 5 people in attendance we will wrap up the discussion by 1:15.

Angie -- Trenton Public:  Sounds good, Anna

Vicki Carr South Macon Public Library:  Sounds fine.

Angie -- Trenton Public:  I'm at the library right now.

Leah Gregory, IHLS:  Hello!

Vicki Carr South Macon Public Library:  Remote for me. Our library is closed and the weather is terrible.

IHLS Admin:  I hope none of you are working too hard on this snowy day!

Angie -- Trenton Public:  Not working hard.  I opened the library, due to so many calling, etc.  Nothing but gratitude for being here for them!

Teresa Pennington (Paris):  Remote for me. Have to go blow the snow off my driveway when this is done

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  I am honored that you all joined us today.

Kami Komm - Germantown:  Angie, how are the roads and such that direction? I closed today because I am 25 miles away and can only see what is happening here. :-)

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  Is it still snowing where you are at?

Leah Gregory, IHLS:  Still snowing here and extremely windy

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  We closed early yesterday and are closed today. steady snow with lots of blowing

Teresa Pennington (Paris):  Light snow now, looks like it may be winding down.

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  I was reading an article last week that said that this was going to be one of the driest winters in Illinois history.  Ha, not anymore. 

IHLS Admin:  Steady snow south of you, Esther!

IHLS Admin:  Maybe we'll be one and done!

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  I'm just glad we didn't get much ice

Angie -- Trenton Public:  @Kami --- still snowing and very windy.  Most of the town streets are driveable at slow speeds, but the country roads are very drifted.

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  I have a flock of starlings at my feeders. They are not my usual visitors. I think the storm must have changed there flight pattern there are so many of them I feel like the movie The Birds.

Kami Komm - Germantown:  Angie - Thank you!!  I thought I might be being over cautious, but my house is on a snow route and it doesn't even look like the plow has gone by.  I wasn't comfortably trying to get out to the highway.

Angie -- Trenton Public:  Found that our waterbed had a leak yesterday we are sleeping in the (very comfortable) king size bed in our guest room #2.  A waterbed leak (didn't get on the floor) during a winter storm was not on my radar.

Teresa Pennington (Paris):  I hate making the decision to close. The first few years I worked here, it was drilled into me that we never close!

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  When I was getting weather alerts there was a statement about how the road clearing will be slower because of staff shortages due to things like covid.

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Teresa, it's never fun to make the call.  Between the weather and covid sicknesses, I think we've had enough, don't you.

Kami Komm - Germantown:  We open at 1:00 on Fridays so I figured I would give the crews time to clean up, get myself shoveled out and then get to the library to take care of any snow related issues there before we open.

Teresa Pennington (Paris):  Oh, yes. Plus I'm older and wiser Herrick township public:  Closed still snowing here.

IHLS Admin:  I saw a very nice post this morning regarding superintendents making that call for school districts and how those decisions can never please anyone.  They are hard calls and I've always erred on the side of being super safe!

Vicki Carr South Macon Public Library:  I feel like we have to be really careful about being open during this kind of weather. I opened one time and the weather was terrible not sure how I made it to the library and wouldn't you know one of our patrons that is 90+ called and found out we were open and her she came. It was way too dangerous for her to be driving or walking on walks that were snow packed.

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  I have worked in libraries where they have felt if even one staff member can drag themselves in the library would be open. Then we would be open and I would find that people who ere older and had mobility issues were the ones to come in. Sometimes you just have to stop the madness and put safety first.

Leah Gregory, IHLS:  We're trying to keep my elderly mother in law from going out - it helps that most of the places she wants to go are closed!

Angie -- Trenton Public:  The biggest issue around here is lack of and necessity of faxing.  People are desperate for faxing services and their requirements don't change because of weather or COVID.

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  @Vicki--When we decide to close it is because of those older patrons that will come--especially when they shouldn't

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  Amy, I agree with what you wrote to the highest degree.

IHLS Admin:  We're just counting down the days until spring!  I think Susan Palmer told me 50 this morning!

Kami Komm - Germantown:  I am using the work from home time to complete the OMA/FOIA training and typing up a tutorial for the board members to use to get on to the new Attorney General site.

Teresa Pennington (Paris):  This articles mentions the "service" aspect expected of librarians. Do you read Book Riot?

Ellen Popit:  Good use of a snow day, Kami! 

Kami Komm - Germantown:  @ Ellen- This way I am not distracted by patrons.  Just my 10 year old who is baking cookies.  LOL

Vicki Carr South Macon Public Library:  i have not been able to get the Attorney General site to work for me. What URL are you using?

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD: worked for me Leah Gregory,

IHLS:  Teresa, that article is very interesting.

Vicki Carr South Macon Public Library:  Thanks I will try it this afternoon.

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  This is a good cross section of our libraries. I am creating an outline and plan for improved consistant training for trustees. Do any of you have  trustees that might be willing to talk to me or be on an advisory committee. I want to have them review what is created as well as help shape the content.

Sharla Riley~ Doyle Public Library:  Still snowing here in Raymond, we've been closed since Wednesday. Roads are quite the mess.

Kami Komm - Germantown:  I just typed Illinois Attorney General into Google and went to the link there.  Send me you email and I will send you the tutorial info I typed up.

Vicki Carr South Macon Public Library:

Vicki Carr South Macon Public Library:  Thank you so much!!

Teresa Pennington (Paris):  FOIA - I got in and created a new login. Now it won't recognize it.

Kami Komm - Germantown:  @Viicki - I just sent it.  Hope it makes sense.  :-)

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  Oh Teresa, that is so frustrating and disappointing.

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Anna, have you read this article about a library board off the deep end in MT? :

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  Have you all been seeing the articles about book bannings, censorship and the harassment of library staff

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  @Teresa--I had the same problem. It took a few minutes to recogize the new account. I think I even closed out the tab on my browser and reopened. I may have been that trying again was all it needed. The site is still wonky.

Teresa Pennington (Paris):  @Esther - I tried again this morning - still nothing. Going to go the reset password route to see if that fixes it.

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  @Amy, thank you sooo much for that. I have been working with a few boards that have me almost ready to go off the deep end.

Kami Komm - Germantown:  @Anna- I just want to read all of the books that are being banned.  Nothing made me want to read a book more than someone telling me I couldn't.

Ellen Popit:  Amy, re:  the article that you sent.  Diane Foote told us in a meeting on Monday, that ILA is going to offer some deescalation (sp?) trainings because things have gotten so out of hand at various places.

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Oh wow.  That's good to hear, but sad to hear that it's necessary.

Leah Gregory, IHLS:  That is so disheartening and scary.

Ellen Popit:  Have you seen the coverage of the St. Charles Library?  Here's a link:

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Yes!  Oh, it's horrible.

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  Ellen, that is excellent news. about the de-escalation training. I keep waiting for gun play at a board meeting or someone making a point about masks. Makes e glad I am safe at home even if it is just for today.

Ellen Popit:  AISLE will also be doing some Saturday trainings on  Collection Development, re-consideration policies, etc. that I'm sure would be open to any interested attendees.

Leah Gregory, IHLS:  Do public libraries do any kind of intruder alert training, like active shooter drills?

Leah Gregory, IHLS:  At my school, we had regular armed intruder drills, as well as deescalation training, and some of our teachers were trained in physical restraint training. But, if it's a mob of people like in St. Charles, that's not going to be much use.

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  Leah I have worked at libraries that do that. Some of our members are single person and they do not have meany options as regardsplaces to retreat to.

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  We show a video each year and discuss it.  We are in a very open concept building, which makes it hard.

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  I think de-escalation tehniques could be useful in several aspects of working with the public.

Leah Gregory, IHLS:  That was always my problem - I had multiple doors and huge windows, and any kind of lockdown was nearly impossible. But, I have used the de-escalation training quite often with pretty good results.

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  We have found that when patrons have issues with our policies, that blaming the Board works most of the time. We point out that the elected members of our Board create the policies and we could loose our job for not following them. Then we let the patron know when the next Board meeting is and invite them to raise their concerns with the Board. 99.9% never follow up.

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  Amy, I think most public libraries devote their spaces for the use of the public. Even offices have lots of windows.  We aso go out into the stacks with people with very little protection between staff and the public. I have had some unpleasant experiences of the close encounters variety. When I supervised young attractive shelvers of both sexes it was worse.

Ellen Popit:  @Esther, pointing out that your board is made up of elected officials makes a lot of sense!

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  I just hope everyone remembers or learns the art of civility and empathy would also be nice. Esther it was interesting that in one of the videos a protester to  masking filmed there were two nice library employees explained  that it was a board decision and there job is to enforce the policy. The protester questioned their moral compass, their intelligence and chided them for "following orders."

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  @Ellen--it reaally does. I found that adding that worked faster than just a general "blame the Board".

Kami Komm - Germantown:  @Esther, good wording.  I will have to remember that.

Sharla Riley~ Doyle Public Library:  Kami, I would appreciate a copy also!

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  We live in weird times. WE left interesting about 18 months ago.

Leah Gregory, IHLS:  Anna I agree 100%

Kami Komm - Germantown:  @Sharla - just sent it.  :-)

Ellen Popit:  Again, just 50 days until spring!

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Does anyone have any exciting news to share? 

Kami Komm - Germantown:  @Amy - we had the library repainted at the beginning of January and will be getting new carpet in March.

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  We have a very exciting program about Grant Writing for our next Members matter on Feb. 17. And then March will be the second part of the excellent presentation on Equity, Diversity and Inclusion and why it Matters.

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Love it!  Kami, we painted our beams throughout the building in the summer of 2020. It never looked brighter in there.  Congrats on the big improvements

Ellen Popit:  And don't forget that we have one more legislative meet-up that impacts our service area.  It's on Valentine's Day at 10:00 a.m.  Here's the link:

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  For April I would really like to have someone or a panel who could discuss how to look for problem areas and plan for them. Everything from bed bugs to the roof caving in. Does anyone have any  leads for potential speakers for me?

Angie -- Trenton Public:  I have 2 new areas that will be "up and running" next week. An Educational Resource bookshelf called Teaching Tools.  Books of reprodicibles and teaching items for our teachers and homeschooling parents. An Early Reader section in our E books ... for Beginning/Reluctant Readers.

Kami Komm - Germantown:  @ Anna - I don't have a name of anyone, but maybe a home inspector type of professional?

Leah Gregory, IHLS:  Angie, I love those ideas.

Ellen Popit:  @Angie.  How did you set up the Early Reader e-book section?

Angie -- Trenton Public:  @Leah --- thank you.  I'm very excited about these areas that I know will get much use. 

Anna Yackle - IHLS :  @Angie, those are great! @Kami that is a good suggestion. I spoke to the person who oversees the offices we are in at SIU and asked if they had anyone because I figure they would cover it all.

Angie -- Trenton Public:  @Ellen --- oops ... those are E as in Easy books, not e-books.  My communication error.

Ellen Popit:  Got it!

Ellen Popit:  Has anyone been out on the roads today.  I'm supposed to head to Champaign tomorrow afternoon, but I'm not sure that will happen!

Leah Gregory, IHLS:  The plows have not even been through here yet today.

Ellen Popit:  I haven't seen a play either, but I'm no more than a half mile away from I-57.

Leah Gregory, IHLS:  I'm sure they are waiting for the snow and wind to die down, otherwise it will be wasted effort.

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Parts of the interstate are closed down nearish to me.  I'm not sure tomorrow is going to be much better

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  Stay safe everyone. I have another meeting that I have to Zoom to.

Ellen Popit:  I'll be right behind you, Esther!

Leah Gregory, IHLS:  The highways are probably going to be ok.

Ellen Popit:  Thanks, Amy!  That helps.

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  @Ellen--see you there

Ellen Popit:  I'm going to duck out.  See you next week!

Vicki Carr South Macon Public Library:  Thanks everyone have a great weekend and stay safe.

Kami Komm - Germantown:  Thanks everyone!!  Stay safe.

Sharla Riley~ Doyle Public Library:  Thank you all. Have a great weekend.