TRANSCRIPT: IHLS Directors' Chat - January 27, 2022


Directors' Chat
Thursday, January 27, 2022


Anna Yackle IHLS:  Good afternoon everyone. It was snowing in Murphysboror but by the time I made it back to Carbondale the sky was clear. How  are all of you doing?

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  All is well here in Watseka

Deb Mason Paxton Carnegie:  Doing well in Paxton. No snow here.

Shari Rawlings:  Just a litle dusting of snow in cerro gordo.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Darn, no outbreaks of tropical weather anywhere!

Shari Rawlings:  Does anyone have an outside book drop that they no longer use ? Our library has had to move to a temporary location and now we have no outside bookdrop.

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  I would be happy to import some!

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  Dusting in the Decatur area, but nothing that let me stay home today.  LOL

Shari Rawlings:   I did check with the decatur library to ask if they any, but they do not

IHLS Admin:  Shari, you might post that on the director's listserv.

Shari Rawlings:   I will try that

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  @Shari are you making improvements or di something happen to your library?

IHLS Admin:  Shari's had a rough few months!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We had snow this morning, but it stopped

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Hi everyone

Julie Jarman (Staunton):   Snow is on the ground here in Staunton

Anna Yackle IHLS:  I like Darcy's idea of importing warmer weather. It would be wonderful if Shari could get a new building. Her problem is the building next to hers.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Sqandy is is good to see your name here.

Shari Rawlings:   The building that is next to us is falling down and it is not safe for us to be in our building.  We have been out of our building since July. The owner of that building  is not doing anything, so we now  we have lawyers involved. so , yes going very slow.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Shari I am not sure how close you are to Coffeen, but you might call their library about a possible book drop

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  Are there any plans for an upcoming "Director's University?"  I believe I just missed the last one.  If so, is there an additional charge for that? I would like to put it in the budget if necessary

Shari Rawlings:   And we have also talked to people who run the village, and they told us they would not get involved.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  My sister has the audacity to be in Hawaii for two weeks!  Haha!  I've told her she is under strict orders to bring back some sunshine and warmth!

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  @ Shari, that is so sad, I'm glad you have a temporary location, but what a bother!

Shari Rawlings:   I will  call the library at Coffeen

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Shari- they are planning to close up- so sad but it might help your situation.

Annette Columbia Public:  I will be purchasing a new book return soon.  Can anyone share any thoughts as good one to recommend? 

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Shari we are all sorry for your problems.  I know Wayne city is just getting a bookdrop. I can not recall where they are getting theirs from but they may have some suggestions for you.

Shari Rawlings:   We had to cut our hours and 1 staff member left during this time.

Sandy West - RLCA:  @annayackle Finally back from medical leave. 

Jackie CAMP:  I am so sorry Shari, as if 2021 was a big enough pain in the rump for librarians. I hope it gets resolved quickly.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Sandy, I am so glad you are back.

Annette Columbia Public:  Shari, if you think you would want our book return, you are welcome to it once I have another one. 

Bill Pixley Brehm Libraryu:  Anybody use Limricc for insurance? I am looking into it and need someone who knows how they are to work with.

Shari Rawlings:    Annette, yes that would be great.

IHLS Admin:  Bill, I think that that Anne West Lindsey District Library in Carterville uses them.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  I know several libraries further north that use them.

Annette Columbia Public:  @Shari.  It's yours. 

Shari Rawlings:   Thank You.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):   I had a few minutes earlier and tried to do my OMA and FOIA training- No go. I could not get on their site to register. Anyone else having an issue with that?

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Anette - we got a Kingsley 60 series last summer and it's working out really well.  We got the mobile cart with it.

Monica Cameron- Shelbyville Public Library:  @Darcy There will be another Directors University this year...I don't know what, if any, charge there will be. @Anna Do you know if there is a charge?

Annette Columbia Public:  @Carrie.  Thanks so much.  I'll check into that.

IHLS Admin:  I got on without a problem, Carrie----but Anna tells me it's pretty glitchy.  Did you create a new account?

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Julie, I have been told the site is still a little fragile and has some glitches. But, they are working on them. The word is to be patient.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Anna, No worries, I will just add it to my to do list in Feb. I tried :)

IHLS Admin:  Our newest staff member, Leah Gregory has joined the chat today.  Leah will be working with our school libraries and this chat will give her an idea about our public libraries.  Please say hi!

Sandy West - RLCA:  Welcome Leah

Shari Rawlings:   Hi Leah

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Hi, Leah! Welcome to our libary community!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Hi Leah!

Deb Mason Paxton Carnegie:  Hi Leah!

Monica Cameron- Shelbyville Public Library:  Welcome!

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  Hello Leah! Welcome!

Leah Gregory:  Hello, everyone!

Mary Ray/Sidell District Library:  Hi Leah!

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public Library Dist.:  I tried last week to recertify on the Attorney  General's website and could not get on.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  Welcome, Leah!

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public Library Dist.:  Hello Leah:)

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Kathleen - I was able to get on, but it took a few tries.

IHLS Admin:  @Bobbi, and you had to create a whole new account, correct?

Sherry Waldrep - Allerton PL:  I did both my trainings on the new site - no issue getting on or completing. I used the link someone posted on the Director listserv

Dawn Rutschke Sherman PLD:  Hi Leah!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Kathleen, I could not even find the page to register again,, at times, it would read site down, reload.. Oh well. I will try it again another day.

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  Hi Leah!

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Over the course of this past year I have heard about more problems between Boards and Directors than in the previous years i have been here combined.  Now you can share your response with me personally at or you can post here. My question is what is the one thing you would like your board to learn or understand? I ask because I am trying to get better at developing Trustee Training.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Sherry- I will ask the Director listserv to send me that link. Thank you.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  We are lucky to have Leah join us.  I think Ellen and are as delighted as anyone. \

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  @Anna I'm new and three of my board members are new so we are learning together, they seem very accommodating.

Leah Gregory:  I'm hoping I can make Ellen and Anna's lives a little easier.

Leah Gregory:  As well as all the school librarians across IHLS.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Darcy I am glad to hear that. If you need any help let me know. I have been attending several board meetings lately.

Debbie Greene:  What is the best way to get Board Members trained properly on FOIA and OMA, ?   Do I simply send an email with the link to the AG site and let each of them take the course so they get a certificate?   Or can it be done as a group?  Sorry, I am new to this and I want to do it the best way possible..  Thank you!

Shawn- Elwood Library District:  @Anna, would it be impolite to say "The director can't do their job and yours, too"? *embarrassed*

IHLS Admin:  Here's the link that I used for the OMA training:  It's the register button at the upper right corner that got me started.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Sending them the link is easier. There's a lot of reading, so doing as a group would be awkward.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Shawn that is fair. May I contact you for more discussion?

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Debbie- I give the board member the link and they do it on their own- then print out the cert at the end for me to file.

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Anna -  please look at the facts and leave your personal opinion at home.

Shawn- Elwood Library District:  @Anna Sure you can

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Anna - that was for the board, I mean!  Not you!  LOL

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @IHLS ADMIN Thank you for that link-

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Debbie, it really is set-up for the individual to take it on their own. You can offer brownie's or your excellent meatballs to those who finish the quickest.

Shari Rawlings:   Anna,  In the case of having to talk to lawyers for our problem, who should it be, the director or the board president?

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Carrie, I had a moment of pause and then realized what was going on. LOL.  However I will try to stick to the facts but I do have plenty of opinions.

Debbie Greene:  Thanks, Anna!  I shall work on an incentive!    And we are having a local person build our bookdrop.  Not sure how that will turn out, but we shall see. I gave them a picture, and It will be made of metal.  More to follow...

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  Do all of the board members need FOIA / OMA training and is it annual or per term?

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Anna - LOL  so, do I , but sometimes my opinins aren't appropritate.  LOL

IHLS Admin:  @Darcy, they need every new term.

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  Thank you, I guess that goes on the next board meeting agenda...

Leah Gregory:  For book drops, Amazon has some affordable package drops that I was able to use successfully at my school. They are metal and can be attached to the ground for security.

Shawn- Elwood Library District:  FOIA/OMA officer needs every year Leah Gregory:  They are padded and weatherproof.

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  @Darcy--it's not required every year, but we have our Board members do it every year. It help keep everyone up to date with any changes.

IHLS Admin:  @Esther----smart move!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  I know you just had a Members Matter program but any news on what the next one will be? We are getting pretty spoiled with these on line events.

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  @Esther that is a good plan. How long does it take? I need to do mine assuming they are going to keep me... My trial period is up for review next month

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Shari, ideally it would be both of you. Then I would say the Board President. However, the board can select someone to be the intermediary. I would definitely recommend the entire board be updated on developments  and get their approval and support of actions.

Shari Rawlings:   Anna,  thanks for that info. that is how we have been doing it.  Just a lot of extra work .

IHLS Admin:  I agree with Anna.  Both you and the board president have different insights into what is going on and you are the one with the best working knowledge of the building.

Jackie CAMP:  :)

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  @Darcy--It doesn't take a long time. I think I did both in less than an hour.

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  @ Esther :)

Anna Yackle IHLS:  I agree with Esther on the training. The regular members are really only required to take it when they are re-elected or reappointed. The designated OMA and FOIA officers need to take the training every year. Things do change.  The state library, IHLS, and ILA try to keep everyone updated when major changes are approved but sometimes people miss things even when we try our best.

Debbie Greene:  Can I just say.... I wish that site would play the material aloud.   I had trouble concentrating....

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Shari, if anything goes south, it will have been worth the extra effort and time.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Shari, you must be sooooooooo frustrated with this ongoing situation and not getting the help you might expect from the city.

Vicki M Carr South Macon Public Library:  My board appointed officers could not get the site to work again. Anyone else having trouble?

IHLS Admin:  Debbie, I think it is baby steps for the attorney general's website---but your point is a good one in terms of accessibility.

Debbie Greene:  It's probably just me.   Maybe their baby steps will turn into adult steps some day soon.

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  @Debbie--you can find screen reader software. It is primarily used by visually impaired.  Might be more work than necessary for one thing. :)

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Debbie and all, I think the AG is erring on the side of caution since the hack they were victim to was so major. Everyone does realize you can not use your old registration you will have to go in and create a new one.  U found the site to not be as intuitive as possible in as far as navigation. I have not yet gone in to take the test but I hope to soon, just so I can see what it is like.

Shari Rawlings:    I do have to say that so far during this time I have thought about leaving ( I have had that thought about 3 times so far ) ,but I know that no one is going to want to step into this mess.

Debbie Greene:  I understand their concerns.  I did make it thru it and got my certificates printed .

IHLS Admin:  @Shari, you're doing a good thing for your community.  We can appreciate how tough this is for you and your staff.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Oh Shari, you are needed,  Please hang in there.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  Shari, hang in there!  This, too, will pass someday. 

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Debbie congratulations on getting the certificate.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Debbie= Yay! I will try again next week. Maybe I will have better luck

Anna Yackle IHLS:  If I won the lottery, it would all be gone because I would want to spend it helping all of you.  Shari I would try to buy that building next to you just to get it torndown and then I would donate the space to your library.

Debbie Greene:  One thing I am certain of - if I can do it, anyone can!

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Debbie, LOL. Don't sell yourself short.

IHLS Admin:  Any fun late-January things going on in your libraries?

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  I just looked outside- the snow is gone..LOL.. wow that was fast

Debbie Greene:  I am continuously looking for new ways to make this library relevant to the needs of the community.  I think Hoopla has a lot of potential, and from people who have been so helpful to provide information, it sounds like it is really useful.   Are their other sources which provide access to audiobooks only for a fee?  Just curious

Shari Rawlings:   We have started Blind Date With A Book.

Debbie Greene:  Thank you, Anna!  I will work on that!

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  We are just wrapping up our Blizzard of Books Reading challenge.  We really enjoy Beanstack

Leah Gregory:  Speaking as a Hoopla user, I adore it. It have read SO many books through Hoopla!

Ginger - Athens:  We have had so many people utilizing the new app. Our book requests have doubled lately as people get the hang of it

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  We still have our January adult reading challenge going on in celebration of Slow Cooking Month.  Over 100 entries so far.  :-)  Next month, it will be Blind Date with a Book ...

Rachel R - Steeleville:  We have Blind Date With a Book started and have a Lunar New Year scavenger hunt for the kids.

Debbie Greene:  I think the new app is pretty cool, and it is indeed bringing us into this century!

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Ginger that is fantastic news and I will pass that along.

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  We also did a Noisy librray day with an indoor story walk of Paolar Bear Polar Bear...lots of fun noises on a winter Saturday!

Debbie Greene:  Does anyone ever checkout escape room games?

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Shari, I love blind date with a book. It is always a fun surprise.

Vicki M Carr South Macon Public Library:  We are preparing in partnership with our school district to start Bookworm with our 1st graders and through the month of February they must read 5 books a night and will receive weekly prizes.

Leah Gregory:  O

Leah Gregory:  Oops

Shawn- Elwood Library District:  Don't throw peanuts at me, I haven't had a moment to catch up on IHLS/SHARE newsletters. (COVID hit the house) Any word on the Census numbers being verified?

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Darcy love the noisy library day.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Can you explain how you do blind date and a book- that sounds fun

Sherry Waldrep - Allerton PL:  we started Friday Playtime for parents/caregivers and kids 5 and under.  We have our program room open with toys, books, etc.  It has been very popular

IHLS Admin:  @Debbie, you might want to run that audiobook question by Cassandra Thompson, the SHARE director, she might have some good leads for you.

Debbie Greene:  OK.  Thanks will do

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Debbie - we've done escape the library events.  I've created them specifically for our building.  It's not hard.  I'd be happy to discuss it with you.

Debbie Greene:  Cool!  Escape rooms seem to be the in thing!

IHLS Admin:  Jo, any recipes being publishing by the library?

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Shawn they are putting the finishing touches on the cite, however you can submit your report and the state library will make any needed adjustments to population.

Deb Mason Paxton Carnegie:  Getting ready for Blind Date with a Book in February. It was a big success last year, lots of fun!

Sandy West - RLCA:  @DEBBIEGREEN Rend Lake  College  has planned a room that was going to be used to do escape rooms. And we purchased a couple to create.  After the remodel, the nixed the room and now the items sit gathering dust

Sherry Waldrep - Allerton PL:  we still have Winter Reading Bingo until the end of February and as always, our Take 'n Makes - so popular. We debuted Spice it Up (spice/recipes take and make) and had to prepare more as it is so popular.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Julie - we have chosen some older books (less likely to have been read recently), wrapped them in brown paper, and labeled with the genre.  

Rachel R - Steeleville:  @Julie, wrap books in paper so they can't see the titles. Write a short summary or the first line of the book or a genre, and the barcode on the paper. They check out a book without knowing what it is. We include a "rate your date" card, which they can turn in to be entered into a prize drawing.

Shari Rawlings:    Julie, We pick a few random books , wrap them in brown paper, We write a few hints on the front of the book . We give them a paper to rate their date, when they turn that back in their name goes into a drawling for a box of chocolate and local gift cefticate.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  We have high hopes that we can begin indoor programming again soon. I want to start a middle school book club and a Lego club == those positivity numbers in our county are climbing but they will go down soon- fingers crossed!

IHLS Admin:  Sandy, how much space do the items take up?  Could they be lent out?

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Rachel- I love that idea= Wonderful surprise.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Sandy that is so sad. I could see where it would be a popular thing with your students and a great way to get them into the library.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @IHLS - we haven't done that, but we have some slow cooker cook books on display

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  @Rachel I love the idea of Rate your date!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Jo- Great idea- I love how you all are spreading the joy with books!

Ginger - Athens:  We have 100 year old valentines day cards on display right now. Not going to lie, some were creepy back then!!!

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  @ Ginger HAHAHA

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Victorian holiday cards are amazing in their weirdness!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  We are still doing our grab bags. I love buying items for the kids. So fun!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  If anyone is in the Clinton area before February 6th, please stop by and see the Smithsonian Museum on Main Street exhibition Voices and Votes in our museum room. We also have the Illinois Freedom Project on our main floor. They are both very interesting exhibitions.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Ginger are they from a local collection? I love looking at old cards. You are correct in that some are sreepy. It must have been a cultural thing that has been lost but ...

Debbie Greene:  Has anyone ever done a make it/take it  with something like a kit to make hand sanitizer? 

Ginger - Athens:  Here's a few of the cards pictured:

Ginger - Athens:  We have a very active gemology room. These are from their collection.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Thanks Bobbi- that does sound interesting

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Congratulations Bobbi. I did see the article in the RAILS newsletter.

IHLS Admin:  @Debbie, that question takes me back to the spring of 2020----there was lots of talk on this chat about making your own hand sanitizer.

IHLS Admin:  Lots of talk about essential oils, etc.

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  @Ginger those are awesome!

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Ginger what fun and great conversation starters.

Debbie Greene:  Yes, I found an easy recipe., and it is for kids.  I wondered if parents might enjoy a kind of science activity  with their children.... or would it be a mess!?

Jackie CAMP:  for those of you with Hoopla did you cancel your cloud and possible overdrive subscriptions Ginger - Athens:  If we canceled Libby for hoopla, i'd personally cry. Hoopla does not get new releases

Bill from the Brehm Memorial Library:  No keeping both for the moment Leah Gregory:  My library has both Cloud and Hoopla. I use both.

IHLS Admin:  @Debbie  I think it would be fun!

Rita Stephens  ISL:  Hello, Leah from ISL

Anna Yackle IHLS:  I like Hoopla because it is always available. and there is a nice variety of mixed media entertainment sources.

Leah Gregory:  Hello, Rita!

Jackie CAMP:  great thank you all

Rita Stephens  ISL:  Enjoy your new job

Leah Gregory:  Thank you, I am so far!

Debbie Greene:  Maybe.  It has been a few years since I had younger children.  Not sure what kinds of containers I can find, etc.  I may look

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  People love Libby! It has the new and popular. Hoopla is great for older or off the wall titles and subjects though.

Sherry Waldrep - Allerton PL:  We have all three - Cloud, Libby and Hoopla and will be keeping them

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We have both. I tend to use Hoopla more personally because I don't have to wait for titles.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  * Both meaning Overdrive and Hoopla

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Well, our time is up. I have enjoyed this time and hope you all stay warm and happy. Take care.

IHLS Admin:  Bye everyone!

Leah Gregory:  Bye!

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  That went fast! Bye!!!

Mary Ray/Sidell District Library:  Bye!

Shari Rawlings:   Bye !

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Have a great day, everyone!

Rachel R - Steeleville:  Thanks, bye!

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  Thank You , bye

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  Bye, all.  It's been fun!

Vicki M Carr South Macon Public Library:  Bye

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Thanks Everyone! I appreciate all the news