TRANSCRIPT: IHLS Directors' Chat - July 8, 2021

TRANSCRIPT

Directors' Chat
Thursday, July 8, 2021

 

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  Friendly Reminder:  This discussion is intended to be a cordial and respectful sharing of ideas regarding the programs, services and the operations of public libraries. Conversations may include the challenges of dealing with the public, staff and the board members. The goal is to have an open and supportive conversation. Be mindful that this is a public discussion, and the transcripts are posted on the IHLS website.

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  "Nothing is pleasanter than exploring a library."  Walter Savage Landor    "Libraries store the energy that fuels the imagination. They open up windows to the world and inspire us to explore and achieve, and contribute to improving our quality of life."

Sidney Sheldon    "The only thing that you absolutely have to know, is the location of the library." Albert Einstein    "Bad libraries build collections, good libraries build services, great libraries build communities."  R. David Lankes

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  Hello,  so glad you could join us today.   While I was researching something else this morning  I came across this excellent article about libraries building community and even though it was published in September of 2011 it is still worth reading.  "Community Centered: 23 Reasons Why Your Library Is the Most Important Place in Town "   https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpubliclibrariesonline.org%2F2013%2F04%2Fcommunity-centered-23-reasons-why-your-library-is-the-most-important-place-in-town%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca6695faa66524cf0383a08d94243a582%7Cad3877b36b3b4c2c878f78e3a8da1075%7C0%7C0%7C637613680578600275%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Xgw4zZIfrxRqJWKfcGJRNMTxo1db7EuMI3FMqJvQ5WA%3D&reserved=0

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Anna, I'm not able to actually register for today's chat.

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  Carrie I will add you.

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  Thank you!

Susan Colbert - Sparta Public Library:  I have tried several times to register for the chats, and cannot. There's no "register" button.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Susan, I'll look at this after we finish up today.  No worries about that at all!

Becky Wilson (Herrick Twp. Public):  I had the same problem no register button.

Susan Colbert - Sparta Public Library:  Thanks Ellen!

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  The date on it is still a June date - oculd that be wy?

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  why*

Becky Wilson (Herrick Twp. Public):  Hi, I have a question about a small private school asking if they can request books and have them delivered to their school instead of picking up at the closest library.  They think they would have up to 60 books per week.

eunice mcclung:  eunice mcclung mounds public library

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Becky, if they're not a system member, they wouldn't be eligible for delivery or interlibrary loan.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  My favorite library quote by a great author:  "Google will bring you back, you know, a hundred thousand answers. A librarian will bring you back the right one."

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Carrie, that was the reason.  I fixed it, but it cuts off when we stop.  Don't worry, we record participants.

Becky Wilson (Herrick Twp. Public):  That is what I told them, but it they asked that I double check.  Thanks

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Ellen, thank you!

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  @ Becky and Carrie, I tried to see where I could add attendees and was not able to find it. What we will do is not attendees and make sure everyone is on the list of todays attendees.

Peggy MVE:   I am also having problems registering.  Thank you for your help.

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  @ Shelley, love it.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  What's on your radar this week?

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  Can i play devil's advocate here? What if the private school had students that are within that library district and have a library card? Can interlibrary loan be dropped off to the school then for those students.

Angie -- Trenton Public:  Had our first SRP in-house program on Tuesday, with 85 attendees!  One grandmother was so happy about us starting up SRP again, that she gave the library a $50 check to help with expenses!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Shelley.  If they have a library card, the materials would be dropped off at their public library.

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  @Becky , that seems to be a delivery question.  I would contact the Linda's

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  Also the quote i sent was by Neil Gaimen. @Anna liked the quote about building communities.  It starts at a young age to do that for sure!\

Susan Colbert - Sparta Public Library:  I've just begun the process of applying for one of the Illinois Humanities COVID relief grants. Anything possible snags I should be watching or preparing for?

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  Never mind my last response as Ellen pointed out, I was not following closely enough, if they are not members we can not deliver.

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  @ Susan you have to upload a W9, which I had to get from the city.  That slowed me down a bit.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Ellen. Ok I was just wondering. Cause I had been wondering about a little volunteer library near us, but their whole town is annexed in to us yet. I never made official plans with them but would have been the same situation.

Maria Dent - Mt. Zion District:  Speaking of grants...and I apologize if this was asked in a previous chat...any guidance on Per Capita requirements for next year out yet?

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Angie, that s great! I am still a bit nervous about indoor programming myself but I love hearing what everyone is doing in their own libraries.

Angie -- Trenton Public:  We really don't have many other options....our library doesn't have a parking lot!

Susan Colbert - Sparta Public Library:  Thanks Carrie. I haven't gotten to that part yet.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  We are doing local outreach. I am doing storytime outside this summer every Tuesday at the Zion Lutheran school. if rain- we are wearing masks in their gym. It works well for us here.

Becky Wilson (Herrick Twp. Public):  so if one teacher or two requests the books through their local library and pick up at their library it would be ok.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Maria. Good question. Isn't it going to be all the same ones. I thought I remember from a previous chat saying they were just going to ask a million question every year and review the standards book for each chapter?

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Maria.  I believe it will be another review of the system standards.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Becky, if the teacher has a library card, that it absolutely OK!

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  So I heard that Illinois is going to offer free school lunches for all kids again this year.  Anyone else heard this or can confirm it?  This has caused some issue in my neck of the woods regarding the Cards for Kids program.

Maria Dent - Mt. Zion District:  @ Ellen - so possibly the entire book again??

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  I have a question about SRP. Anyone getting less participants than in 2019 (PC) "Pre Covid"

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Maria, I believe so.

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  @Maria, that is my understanding. Each year the entire book will be reviewed

Becky Wilson (Herrick Twp. Public):  My summer reading is way down.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  I think they are going to get a lot of the same answers every year on the per capita.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @maria, I should just start now on the Per cap, or resubmit my answers from last year,, LOL

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  I remembered we talked about that in a previous chat too. Some libraries just don't have the funding to meet all those standards or demands.

Maria Dent - Mt. Zion District:  @ Shelley - we are down compared to pre-C, but are coming back.  I think it will take time.

Bill from Brehm Library:  Circ for Children's and YA is about the same as last year's, Adult circ is way down

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  @Shelley, we are thinking of having the people from the state library who handle the IPLAr and Per Capita's tlak about how the questions are created and answer any questions you may have about answering them.

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Shelley - we are still down around 70% of our old normal overall, but our SRP numbers are at about 80% of our 2019 numbers, so we're happy with that.

Kami Komm - Germantown:  SRP - I had almost 40 register, but only about 10 have come in for prizes.  About 8 show up for the storytime/craft and  about 15 come to get the craft to go when it is convenient for them.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  I think the State Library has really tried to stress that these are reviews, not requirements.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Becky-  this is actually good news for us in Staunton,, we did  a bigger grab and go bag for SRP in June-- I am shocked and happy to say our numbers were UP this year-- 75 as opposed to 30 or so in 2019. I can not explain it. Our numbers of visitors are down still from precovid.

Kami Komm - Germantown:  I did notice that the e-book/audio e-book circulation is about double from last year.  I am assuming that would probably be the same everywhere.

Maria Dent - Mt. Zion District:  Thank you for the Per Capita responses/info.  I was hoping to get the incoming director a start on the requirements before I leave.  I will tell her to look out for information and to ask this group.

Bill from Brehm Library:  Our ebook went up for a few months, then back down to about what it had been before (around 1,000) when the library reopened.

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  Speaking of Audios - how many of you will continue to purchase audios on CD?  Anyone quit yet?  I've started not ordering as many.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Our ebooks went up too and then back to pre covid- numbers Marsha Burgener A-HPL:  Our summer reading is less than half compared to pre-C.  We have around 40+ registered, but only about 12 are actually participating.  Free lunches are being handed out across the street from the library everyday, but I'm not sure where the funding is coming from.  The meals come from Yoder's in Arthur and are very good.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Becky and @Maria thanks for being honest. I'm unbelievable down.  I had 0 kids last week, compared to getting 30-40 every week. But I wonder if I didn't advertise enough in advance. I usually go into the schools in May to advertise the event in-person in the classrooms and didn't get to do that because of covid. :(

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  i did just give away a reading prize though. yay!

Don, Philo:  Our adult book checkout is up 25% and ebook usage down about 10% versus 2019.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Marsha---that just makes me  hungry!  I bet they are good!

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  Reading challenge participation is average, but our actual summer reading activities is down a lot. Hoping it will go up next week.

Bill from Brehm Library:  Our SRP numbers are down compared to pre-C or even last summer

Kami Komm - Germantown:  @Carrie - I have not ordered any since I started last July.  Also, the only ones that circulate go to other libraries.  I haven't had any of my patrons check out books on CD.

Marsha Burgener A-HPL:  Ellen-fried chicken, mashed potatoes, etc.  I wish I qualified.

Bill from Brehm Library:  CD is still popular here

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Marsha  Me, too!

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  Don't forget to register for the next Members Matter next Thursday, Jul 15, 2021 | 10:00 am - 12:00 pm   Grant Writing the American Recovery Plan Act (ARPA) Grants https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flibrarylearning.org%2Fevent%2F2021-07-15%2Fmembers-matter-grant-writing-american-recovery-plan-act-arpa-grants&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca6695faa66524cf0383a08d94243a582%7Cad3877b36b3b4c2c878f78e3a8da1075%7C0%7C0%7C637613680578600275%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=HxddI%2BRvy9b76UJ8epiNA09Cyxg7bbPOgbOZzs8lCPE%3D&reserved=0

Carol, Ashley Public:  @Anna  Thanks for the reminder!

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  @Anna, will that be recorded? 

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Anna thank you for pushing the humanities grant. I was happy to have another opportunity to submit an application

Susan Colbert - Sparta Public Library:  We have 3 patrons that regularly check out books on CD. I'm checking into Hoopla and start dramatically limiting purchase of CDs. New vehicles do not have CD players.

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Carrie - we still get audios on CD.  They're still popular with our patrons.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  I think the state library will have some exciting grant options coming up very shortly and hopefully, they can be part of next Thursday's content.

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  I'm out of town next week - will be sad to miss Member's Matter and Director Chat. 

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  @Carrie, yes it will be but it is always best if you can attend in person to ask your questions.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Ellen- great news. I am still finishing up the DNA grant but am ready to tackle some more.

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  Thanks @Anna.  Story hour is 10:30-11:30 and I run Thursday mornings myself, so its a no go for me.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Anna my main two issues with the per capita is 1. The usage for internet. (It's impossible to track if your internet provide doesn't do this, or if you don't have login credentials) I tried to explain this to them and she had no idea either but still asked for it. I just shook my head. lol

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  @ julie: What is the DNA Grant?

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  The other issue that i have personally is we are annexed. So i can never use our new population. They told me I would have to get a "special census" and then I was told this is impossible to do.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  So sometimes i just laugh at my per capita grant answers. wonder if anyone else does too.

Don, Philo:  yes Shelley

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Shelley, will that be resolved after the numbers from the 2020 census are able to be used?

Maria Dent - Mt. Zion District:  @Shelley - not laugh, but not 100% sure

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  If we bring in the folks from the ISL it maybe important to share your struggles and questions. 

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  Going back to the audio books/CD collections. Im imagining that within the next 5 years our cd's will be drastically weeded or non-existent. So many libraries are getting rid of audio book AV. I've heard from some patrons they don't even make all cars with CD players anymore.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  we still buy them. but only a few big name authors on audio book CD. Plus more of our patrons use ebooks for audiobooks now.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Shelley, we've had that same conversation with a number of groups.

Danielle Beasley - Communications Coordinator:  @Shelley, that's pretty accurate. Most cars (if not all) are no longer being made with CD players. My car is a 2017 Buick and it doesn't have a CD player.

Kami Komm - Germantown:  Is there a site where we can find the census numbers for our library areas?  I have not had luck with that during my research.

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  I remember all the way back to the late 1980's and talking about trying to create a system by which we all measure and record things using the same standards. things have improved but  still a lot of apples to oranges  and just plain uncertainty.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Anna, Digital Network Access Grant- offered by ISL back in Nov I think- We have until Sept. to get everything in

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @ Ellen, no it will not be resolved after the 2020 census.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  Because even then it's still an estimate because we are rural.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  So I can calculate the population for each township and village. But I don't know if that always includes the outsiders or rural patrons who are between districts. I guess maybe they have to get counted somewhere but I'm not sure.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  I was basically told I need a special census. Because that's what I did the last time. I used 2010 census data and they told me I couldn't do that. So our population is 2x smaller.  At that point I was just like whatever. IT will just always be incorrect. HAHAHHA

Michelle Barclay PLD:  @Shelly, I have the annexed issue too. I was told to put in the current numbers and also that we have yet to obtain a special census in the comments.

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  Thanks for the thoughts on Audio CD's  I too have a two patrons who use them, but think it is going to be a thing of the past soon.  I also agree with you all on the Per Capita.  A lot of those standards are unrealistic for our library.  I laughed aloud at the "is your library always staffed by two or more people".  Nope, never going to get that one accomplished.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Michelle---thanks for sharing that.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Kami. I used city-data.com. There is is also census.gov (but when I last went to it, it wasn't very user friendly, I think they updated it and it was harder to find exact locations)

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  @Julie, thank you.  @Shelley, that is an interesting situation. I rember back to the last Census and the ISL had programs to help us to calculate situations like this. I was Director at a large district that parts of 3 different counties. Much of it rural. It was not a fun experience but the state was helpful.

Kami Komm - Germantown:  @Shelley - Thank you!!  I also found census.gov to be problematic.  I will try city-data.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Carrie- I always laugh at the technology questions-- do we have space to teach computer classes, etc. No, and we won't ever have the space or the money to provide a teacher.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Michelle. when I called someone about getting a "special census" and it may have been someone who works for census data, told em it was impossible.  I think they are understaffed or maybe it just take so long to go through the state hoops or maybe they just don't want to do them or they aren't that successful in collecting data. I don't know, but I was told it was impossible.

Angie -- Trenton Public:  Our audiobooks are still highly used.  Most of our users are either working from home or hobbyists (sewing, quilting, artists, etc.) who use them while they work.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Carrie. Yep. Same. I have 2-3 regular "audio book CD users", maybe up to 5 at most. But ordering $30-40 per audio book for only 2 people doesn't seem to justify spending that much for something used so little.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Carrie. That's another one of the standards many rural libraries can't meet.

Michelle Barclay PLD:  @Shelley, and I can only imagine how much a special census would cost!!! Pat Burg at the State was very helpful to me on this matter

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  The standards are "idealistic" but not "realistic" i say. Standards are what they think a library "should be". But i prefer standards to be more achievable for everyone.

Bill from Brehm Library:  I'm lucky my district is based on township boundaries. When they finally get the census broke down to that level I can figure the population fairly easy. It is just waiting until they get the numbers broke down to that level.

eunice mcclung:  The technology questions were unbelievable.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  We buy four audio books a month- usually the popular murder writers-- that is the only thing our patrons were requesting here- We are now buying DVDS finally after years of the board being resistant to do because of the two video shops we had on Main street. Now there is a Red box at CVS so they finally relented.

Michelle Barclay PLD:  @Shelly, Pat Burg's contact if you don't have it: PBurg@ilsos.gov

Kami Komm - Germantown:  My library is District so I can find the population of the town we are in, but not the numbers of the rural area we serve.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  *not there is ONLY a red box at CVS so the board relented- The video shops are now closed sadly

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Michelle. Pat was one of the ones i talked to. Not helpful for either situation. She's great and knowledgeable. But she didn't have answers for my situation either!

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  When even the state can't help you, it's a problem I'd say.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Speaking of rural libraries.  The Association for Rural and Small Libraries (ARSL) will be offering their conference both in-person and virtually.  The virtual registration is VERY reasonable.  You can learn more here:  https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.arsl.org%2F2021-conference&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca6695faa66524cf0383a08d94243a582%7Cad3877b36b3b4c2c878f78e3a8da1075%7C0%7C0%7C637613680578600275%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=JpFCVXjVvQSGhKnJd3MrqPD98mprDzUoi8NAhLuZmDQ%3D&reserved=0

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  @Shelley and all, I would like to figure out how we can all get help in achieving some of those standards. Yes grants are helpful but we need to advocate for getting funds to improve library technology and facilities.

Michelle Barclay PLD:  @Shelley, that has got to be frustrating!

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  @Julie I haven't purchased many DVD's this year just because there have been so few new releases or things just released to streaming services.  My children's DVD section is hugely popular still, but my adult selection has had a big decline since COVID

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Eunice, I agree, Not realistic for some of us. I know these standards are only suggestions, the goal is to provide as much as we can but still, it gets annoying

Marsha Burgener A-HPL:  I only have 2 patrons that check out CD's regularly.  I  have a hard time keeping up with them. 

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Carrie- It is hard finding great movies that everyone will love. Luckily I have only been buying since 2019 or so and have some wiggle room to add to the old collection of generous donations

Maria Dent - Mt. Zion District:  M

Maria Dent - Mt. Zion District:  oops:)

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  @Masha my ladies are insatiable as well, which is why I'm glad others are still purchasing CD's!! 

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  I'm sure that the abundance of streaming services would really impact DVD circulation.

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Carrie - I'm with you - the movie choices this past year have been terrible.  We usually have lots of new DVDs each month, but lately I'm lucky to find 2 or 3.  So sad.  Hopefully it'll pick up again soon.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):   I know, streaming service.. I was looking for Lupa the other day to buy-- because I saw it advertised,, learned pretty quickly it was streaming-- and not yet available

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Ellen - last year we added Kanopy and Hoopla.  Amazingly, they've gotten very little traffic at all.  Our patrons still want to come in to check out DVDs.  Last month our Kanopy only had 13 visits!

Pam - West Frankfort Public:  We stopped taking book donations during COVID and haven't started taking them yet. Just curious how many of you, if any, have started taking them and if you have been are you receiving a lot?

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Carrie  Wow!  I also think that patrons and non-cardholders don't recognize the scope of what a library has.

Michelle Barclay PLD:  @Pam, we are taking them but we quarantine them for 3 days before touching

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  It is interesting but I have five streaming services that I pay for but have recently taken to buying blu-rays  of my favorites. Better visual and sound quality and no constant loading because of poor internet.

Kami Komm - Germantown:  Our DVD circulation has gone down as well.  I noticed at Target that some items are released in Blu-Ray only and some of my patrons only have the DVD option at home.

Elecia Cooper (Kinmundy Public Library):  we get a lot of patrons in who check out DVDs on a regular basis. Internet is expensive so we have a large population who do not have it or can't afford streaming services. Also there isn't any cable TV in this area, just satellite which is also to expensive for most in the low income area.

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Ellen - you're right about that.  When I talk to people about our library I so often hear, "You can do X at the library??  I didn't know that!"  Kind of sad, really.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Pam- we are very picky now with donations.. only New hard back titles,.. nothing else- no non ficition, nothing old or musty.. We do take paperbacks in good shape because we can sell them but that is all-. Our donations get put in the on going book sale, the free cart in the front hallway or the free little library outside the back door.

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  May I refer everyone back to the start of this discussion and the article about 23 reasons your Library is the heart of the community. \

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Pam - we are being very picky about what donations we take.  We ask if the book was published within the last year, the condition it is in, hardcover vs paperback, holds on it, etc.

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Anna - I loved that article!  I got a couple of ideas from it, and then sent it to my new/incoming Program Manager.  Thanks for that!

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  @Carrie great! it speaks to some of the things people don't know we do.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Anna and Ellen. I don't think it's the grants. I think it's the standards that need to change themselves. We can do all the grants in the world, but there are only so many grants per library, you know?

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  I still get people in who are shocked we charge for faxing and copier services though, that is very odd-

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  I'm not complaining. I'm just stating. I always figure it out, it's not big deal. It just doesn't make sense to require information that is impossible to give.

Carol, Ashley Public:  @Julie Jarman  That sounds like a very wise book donation policy.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Julie. Really? (kinda secretly funny).   We charge for those services too. 

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Shelley- I know, i have to suppress a laugh too when it comes up..How do you think we pay for our copy paper?

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  I believe this applies to your annual report more than the per capita grant, but some of these questions are required on a federal level.  Also, the state library is very aware that this is self-reported information.

Danielle Beasley - Communications Coordinator:  Going to plug another grant to look into and apply for: The Emergency Connectivity Fund grant - https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ala.org%2Fadvocacy%2Fecf&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca6695faa66524cf0383a08d94243a582%7Cad3877b36b3b4c2c878f78e3a8da1075%7C0%7C0%7C637613680578600275%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tNV1nhe%2BjrH4mLblRZx3HGjwBhujcgno75jMtRXvrww%3D&reserved=0

Danielle Beasley - Communications Coordinator:  Applications are due August 13

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Julie. We should swap our DVD lists sometime. I have great movies. medium checkout. Not great, not bad.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  I mainly only purchase the classics, children's DVD's, oscar winners, favorite actors/actresses that kind of thing

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  cult classics i guess. Not necessarily "thee classics". both i guess

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  Thanks for sharing that Danielle.

Michelle Barclay PLD:  @Danielle, thank you!

eunice mcclung:  Anna our community are very small, before covid we had a lot of patrons for different reasons.  They loved the library. We aren't back to near normal yet. still our library are very important in our community.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Carole- Sadly it took years of crummy books and a year of covid germs for all of us to figure that out over here.. ha ha,, makes no sense to take books that we then had to take to the dumpster out back. we kill them with kindness but explain the situation with germs, with space and etc. Some people still think their 1940s books from the basement are still worth being in the public library.

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  @Eunice, I love your library and your board really wants to make things work. I wish you had more resources to draw upon.

Carol, Ashley Public:  @Julie Jarman For sure!

Michelle Barclay PLD:  We have a book sale with donations but with all the work that goes into it, I am not sure it is worth it

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Ellen. Oh yeah....I was thinking of the annual report. Guess I was mixing them up.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  same standards apply though

Pam - West Frankfort Public:  Thank you for the info. We also get lots of donated books that need to be put in the dumpster or recycling so they are more trouble for us than they are worth.

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  We have one regular who never checks out books (doesn't have a card, even) but will come in monthly to buy a dozen or more books from our sale.  Other than that, we RARELY sell any, even during the "official" book sale twice a year (during our town rummages).

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Shelley, I am trying to buy only the blockbusters like Marvel,etc that everyone wants to see, the Oscar nominees, , Disney, and a special place in my heart for the wonderful children's movies,, it has gotten much harder now with all these changes in the movie industry

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Jo. I like your idea of accepting books published within the past year. That's what I'm moving towards accepting. We are moving and weeding even more than we normally do in preparation for the move, so I don't feel like collecting the older stuff unless i know it's gonna be a hit. Definitely a trend going on with nonfiction.  I feel like lately only the "big hits" go over with nonfiction. World War books always go over with our men.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Pam. agreed. and I hate doing that. but it's part of the job.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Carrie- we have been selling a bit here and there but not like pre 2020.. I will mix it up, take some from the book sale and put on the free cart or the free little library.

Michelle Barclay PLD:  Bye everyone! It was nice to catch up!

Susan Colbert - Sparta Public Library:  Our book sale made over $800 in 2019. We just ask for donations and the Friends man the check-out table.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  We have a patron who is really wanting to see Hamilton - but it is only streaming on Disney Plus.  She is older - no children or grandchildren to make Disney Plus worth it for her. 

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Hope everyone has a lovely weekend!

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Susan - I wish we had a Friends group.  Ours apparently disbanded about 8 years ago.

Anna Yackle IHLS Admin:  It is 2:00 pm and time to wrap up. Thank you for joining us and have a great rest of your week. See you all next Thursday.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  I think DVDs and books on CDs are important for those unable to afford streaming.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  @Julie. Same here. that's what I mainly buy too. You are so right that COVID changed the movie industry. we are getting more dvd donations because people just stream. but i take them if they are good stuffs because not everyone can afford internet and if they have internet, they may not be able to afford streaming services.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  that's how i see it anyway

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Pam- there for a while we were afraid to touch any donation, It was kind of nice to decline everything for covid reasons

Bill from Brehm Library:  Shelley I agree with you

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  We made $343 selling books for only 4 hours worth. Not bad. I don't think anyway.

Pam - West Frankfort Public:  Julie - I agree 100%

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  for those of you who suggested $5 a bag. Thanks! Big hit.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Shelley - that's great!

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  Have a great weekend, everyone!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  We have a never ending book sale in the back foyer- it works nice when we are OPEN anyway, ha ha..

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  thanks everyone. this was fun. appreciate all the advice.

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  i always take away at least 1 thing from these chats

Shelley (Hillsboro Library):  thank you!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Thanks everyone- always good to learn what you all are doing in library land